Possible Ideas to Address Hrothgar/Viera Hat Disparity?

[Yencat]

Just a more current update of their same stance on the subject. The problem with that question is they asked "headgear" rather than hats. Viera already have support for headgear that isn't hats! Nothing new was learned! The community had a chance and blew it with that question!

I'm assuming the question was asked in Japanese so I can't say how specific the wording was on that end. But even if the question was literally about "headgear", unless he was being purposefully obtuse I'd wager he knew what was being asked and answered accordingly.

But then the question about glamour restrictions being loosened was misconstrued into asking about axes on black mages, so who knows?

but still gotta wonder why newer gear doesnt have built in earholes.

I don't think they do many custom models for Miqo'te anymore either, so it's probably too much work to adapt the hairstyles and make custom models just for Viera and/or Hrothgar.

[SturmChurro]

I'm assuming the question was asked in Japanese so I can't say how specific the wording was on that end. But even if the question was literally about "headgear", unless he was being purposefully obtuse I'd wager he knew what was being asked and answered accordingly.

But then the question about glamour restrictions being loosened was misconstrued into asking about axes on black mages, so who knows?

Axes on black mages? Maybe, I'm better off not knowing..

I mean, all he said was "not 100%", which answers literally nothing. Plus devs in general are known for being quite... ambiguous..

[MistyMew]

They need to step up their game imo and stop with the endless excuses since the reintroduction of this game, and improve quality.
This includes equal options for hairstyles and headgear for all races. No excuses.
Also start now, today...and begin fixing the clipping of all gear, AND improve the physics of the gear, no more cardboard stiff dresses, hair, tails ..omg. It is horrendous. And do NOT introduce any new gear/hairstyle with the SAME problems!

The game comes across as low budget, MANY FTP games look 1000x better.
GIT GUD SE

ty

[Yencat]

Axes on black mages? Maybe, I'm better off not knowing..

I'm having trouble finding the exact quote right now, but if you're curious; Basically the question was something like if they ever intended to loosen the glamour restrictions between DoW and DoM because people were sick of only having robes for healers and casters, and he answered that no that wouldn't be possible because it would be very confusing and strange for a Black Mage to be using a Warrior's axe Something to that effect.

I don't think it was ever clarified if he misunderstood, the question got lost in translation, or he didn't really want to answer the question, but it was a real head scratcher.

I mean, all he said was "not 100%", which answers literally nothing. Plus devs in general are known for being quite... ambiguous..

Well, it answers the question that they've not been so quiet about it because they've been hard at work on a solution to make everything work, but outside of a small minority of people I don't think many people ever believed they would.

But you're right, it doesn't actually answer if they ever intend to add more. It's possible they aren't sure yet themselves either and just don't want to commit to any definitive answer right now.

[Raikai]

Also start now, today...and begin fixing the clipping of all gear, AND improve the physics of the gear, no more cardboard stiff dresses, hair, tails ..omg.

But does the XIV engine allows more fluid physics, that's the question... I don't know, actually. However in the case of "not working out", it would be actually impossible to avoid every clipping that happens from hairs to collars, but there's one single clipping that defnitely should be addressed somehow, that is the tail clipping. It's the most horrendous of them all, and something that really sticks like an eyesore in a huge distance... Funny that they never showed any Blue Mage artifact gear publicity with that Au Ra turned backwards.

[Kyeria]

I, unfortunately, don't know the answer to fixing these races, but I will say this and it's kind of a rant so I'm sorry in advance, but...I'm honestly getting incredibly tired of Square Enix's excuses in regards to, well just about everything here lately.

It always boils down to "Dev resources" and I'm sorry...FFXIV is one of their most financially successful games and they assign a shoestring budget and team size to it..and I have no idea why. It's honestly unacceptable for how large this game is. Assign more resources to FFXIV or find a better excuse, because I'm tired of this one, lol. I love my Hrothgar, but it has been a year now and they've made 0 progress on even just attempting to fix any of the issues for the Hrothgar or Viera.

These races were created overnight ( exaggerating I know ) and it shows. The Hrothgar only has 8 hairstyles which are all tied to face types...and only two per face type. God forbid you only like one of the face types because then you're literally limited to two hairstyles...and you better be ready to fork out $10 for a fantasia because they weren't' kind enough to make face changes free and a fantasia exception for our race due to the limitations they caused.

It's insanely frustrating because weeks after these races were made, modders found ways to make the hairstyles work across all face types and make hats work for Hroth/Viera. A quick google/twitter/social media search can confirm this in minutes. If Joe Schmoe can figure this out in 2 weeks, why cant your billion-dollar company figure it out in a year?

I dunno, rant over and I clearly feel some kind of way about this, but it's really disheartening.

[DPZ2]

They need to step up their game imo and stop with the endless excuses since the reintroduction of this game, and improve quality.
This includes equal options for hairstyles and headgear for all races. No excuses.
Also start now, today...and begin fixing the clipping of all gear, AND improve the physics of the gear, no more cardboard stiff dresses, hair, tails ..omg. It is horrendous. And do NOT introduce any new gear/hairstyle with the SAME problems!

The game comes across as low budget, MANY FTP games look 1000x better.
GIT GUD SE

ty

Can you list some of the "MANY"? I've played quite a few, and, unless the characters in-game are cartoonish, they all seem to suffer pretty much the same problems. WoW included.

[DPZ2]

It's insanely frustrating because weeks after these races were made, modders found ways to make the hairstyles work across all face types and make hats work for Hroth/Viera. A quick google/twitter/social media search can confirm this in minutes. If Joe Schmoe can figure this out in 2 weeks, why cant your billion-dollar company figure it out in a year? (

Joe Schmoe has one thing going for them that SE does not. They don't have to guarantee that it works the same way on Playstation and PC.

Nor does Joe Schmoe have to consider the 'legal issues' involved. There's a reason that most authors don't read fanfiction based on their characters.

[Kiurai]

I feel like people don't quite understand what the devs refer to when they say this. They are likely referring to the time it takes not the monetary reasons. Unless they pulled every team from SE into XIV I doubt every issue will be addressed in the manner you want them to be. They likely also prioritize things that we as players rarely ever need to bother with considering now this doesn't excuse them not doing what the playerbase wants but they say it because their is various things they have to take into consideration, how much time on cosmetic items, how much time to add things to the character creator, how much on hats for the new races, how much on raids, how much on dungeons, etc. etc.

[Kyeria]

Joe Schmoe has one thing going for them that SE does not. They don't have to guarantee that it works the same way on Playstation and PC.

Nor does Joe Schmoe have to consider the 'legal issues' involved. There's a reason that most authors don't read fanfiction based on their characters.

I'm sorry, the first part is a pathetic excuse for Square Enix if we're really going to go with that. We're talking about a cosmetic, a hairstyle, and a hat.
This isn't rocket science. If they can make a brand new hairstyle ( Wind Caller Hair ) work for 10 races, ( Hyur, Miq, Roe, Lala, Aura, and each has an additional tribe ) across both PS4 and PC there's no reason they couldn't figure this out a SINGLE brand new hairstyle or fixing a single existing hat cosmetic for Viera and Hrothgar over the course of a year.

For the second part, what legal issues do they have with adding all the hairstyles and hats to all the races...they literally own all the rights to them?
And for the last part, I literally have no idea what you meant.