Months of harassment

[Ammokkx]

let's not blame this on mental illness when there's no evidence that has anything to do with it and just throws perfectly nice mentally ill people under the bus. he's probably just a complete loser who never grew past thinking /b/ was cool

Yeaheahea, no. Having a mental illness, in a great many cases, is an inherently negative thing for the person in question. Many learn to live with it, but they still often cause problems when interacting with the people around them, which isn't (always) the person in question's fault. The point is- when a person like this, who has hampered communication skills, didn't get the proper treatment early on, they turn into "that loser who never grew past thinking /b/ was cool".

Just because he's a vile person doesn't mean you should dismiss their mental illness if they have one. That just makes his behaviour spiral further out of control rather than looking to actually finding a solution so they can start acting like a reasonable human being.

[Maria1693939]

The only reason I brought up the mental illness thing was because this would be the dumb things I would do when mine own mental illness was out of control. But it's besides the point, I shouldn't have brought it up, and I'm sorry for doing so - let's look for a solution to this issue.

As mentioned earlier, blacklisting doesn't help when they create a new character ten minutes later.

[SnowVix]

Yeaheahea, no. Having a mental illness, in a great many cases, is an inherently negative thing for the person in question. Many learn to live with it, but they still often cause problems when interacting with the people around them, which isn't (always) the person in question's fault. The point is- when a person like this, who has hampered communication skills, didn't get the proper treatment early on, they turn into "that loser who never grew past thinking /b/ was cool".

Just because he's a vile person doesn't mean you should dismiss their mental illness if they have one. That just makes his behaviour spiral further out of control rather than looking to actually finding a solution so they can start acting like a reasonable human being.

my point was more "let's not assume he's mentally ill without any evidence when it's just as likely he's just a completely vile human being completely of his own volition"

[SturmChurro]

it SHOULD be a big deal. Spamming what they have been is absolutely disgusting and should'nt be tolerated by anyone. /shrug

That stuff is just playground spam, people used to spam that in chat like 10 years ago. It's really not as big a deal as some of you seem to make it out to be. For that matter, the spam is tailored specifically for you all's reactions, the reactions shown in this popular forum thread. Think it's a coincidence that this person has ramped up after this thread was created (which will get nothing done, by the way)? I bet this person enjoys all these amateur investigators that are after them. Giving them a good laugh, I bet.

Ahh yes, let's just ignore the mentally ill person with a vendetta against the community who has been relentless in trolling us with awful language everyday for the past week.

Must be quite nice on Exaclibur where you don't have to deal with such issues.

I have no clue how the NN on my server is, I haven't been a mentor for like 2 years. Plus, I don't even interact with anybody on my server (I play this game solo, don't even have an FC). But I digress.

So for you two I quoted, do you believe blacklisting them and ignoring this will help? When the person is blatantly breaking the ToS? Should their actions have zero consequences? If so, please tell me what world you live in.

No, report (quietly) and move on. Ignoring them is the best option available. Use that famed mentor kick power or whatever.

[Ammokkx]

That stuff is just playground spam, people used to spam that in chat like 10 years ago. It's really not as big a deal as some of you seem to make it out to be. For that matter, the spam is tailored specifically for you all's reactions, the reactions shown in this popular forum thread. Think it's a coincidence that this person has ramped up after this thread was created (which will get nothing done, by the way)? I bet this person enjoys all these amateur investigators that are after them. Giving them a good laugh, I bet.

You are entire, absolutely, 100% factually correct and that is exactly the problem.

You might not care, but you are not everyone. Clearly this man has gotten on the nerves of a great many people, and just saying "ignore it" and "this isn't something new" doesn't help the situation any.

God forbid we want people to actually communicate with each-other in full sentences not designed to get a reaction out of them. Why, it's almost like we're advocating for... basic human decency, or something?

[SnowVix]

That stuff is just playground spam, people used to spam that in chat like 10 years ago. It's really not as big a deal as some of you seem to make it out to be. For that matter, the spam is tailored specifically for you all's reactions, the reactions shown in this popular forum thread. Think it's a coincidence that this person has ramped up after this thread was created (which will get nothing done, by the way)? I bet this person enjoys all these amateur investigators that are after them. Giving them a good laugh, I bet.

keep defending someone doing the video game equivalent of screaming slurs in an auditorium, i'm sure that's somehow a really good look in your eyes, but it just means that you wish you could say the same without repercussions in my eyes

[SturmChurro]

When did I ever defend them? I've said multiple times, or at least alluded to, that it is not okay.

Ironically, a lot of you seem to be the ones actually getting banned, in this forum thread. By the way.

Also, I just have to add, yeah let's just exclude ALL new free trial players from the Novice Network - a chat designed specifically to assist new players - because of one dude! Someone you can't just ignore. Great idea.

By the way, because of this thread, it might actually encourage OTHERS to join in on this behavior. Great job everyone!

[Rinia]

This person is ramping up probably because of this gigantic deal you guys are making of it.

At least for Adamantoise, we've tried the whole ignoring him thing as best as we reasonably can, but it's increasingly difficult when not everyone can be online all the time so while most mentors know of it and know to be on the lookout and kick without saying a word, there's ALWAYS a sprout that chimes in with the classic "Who was that? Is this game seriously gonna be that toxic? " And of course someone has to jump in and explain, and then it just turns into a neverending cycle.

[Maria1693939]

When did I ever defend them? I've said multiple times, or at least alluded to, that it is not okay.

Ironically, a lot of you seem to be the ones actually getting banned, in this forum thread. By the way.

Also, I just have to add, yeah let's just exclude ALL new free trial players from the Novice Network - a chat designed specifically to assist new players - because of one dude! Someone you can't just ignore. Great idea.

By the way, because of this thread, it might actually encourage OTHERS to join in on this behavior. Great job everyone!

Make an alt on Aether. Get invited to Novice Network. Make NN your main tab. You try to ignore it, blacklist it, whatever and however, and see how long you last with this attack. It's easier to be a commenter when this doesn't affect *your* community.

[Fudgely]

When did I ever defend them? I've said multiple times, or at least alluded to, that it is not okay.

Ironically, a lot of you seem to be the ones actually getting banned, in this forum thread. By the way.

Also, I just have to add, yeah let's just exclude ALL new free trial players from the Novice Network - a chat designed specifically to assist new players - because of one dude! Someone you can't just ignore. Great idea.

By the way, because of this thread, it might actually encourage OTHERS to join in on this behavior. Great job everyone!

Honestly I doubt many of the mentors on this thread care about being banned from the ever so vaunted FF forums, given how this is most of our only posts here. The only reason this thread exists in the first place is to bring attention to the fact that we've been having this problem for a while now and how slow the Aether GM response has been in the hopes that maybe this gets sent to someone higher up. I'm also pretty sure it's not gonna encourage new trolls given the extreme lengths it takes to setup that many alts. But apparently we should just ignore the guy spamming racial slurs constantly since that's the new player introduction that the sprouts deserve right?