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  1. #61
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    Wyakin's Avatar
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    Wyakin Cade
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    Odin
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    Maybe if the novice network and mentor system was an actual useful thing and not some kinda glorified chat room this kind of stuff wouldn’t happen. Instead you all just want your Burger King crowns as a badge of honour. Zero sympathy
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  2. #62
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    YuzuyuVolanti's Avatar
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    Yuzuyu Volanti
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    Maybe if the novice network and mentor system was an actual useful thing and not some kinda glorified chat room this kind of stuff wouldn’t happen. Instead you all just want your Burger King crowns as a badge of honour. Zero sympathy
    I mean, I got my "Burger King Crown" out of a desire to communicate with and help newer players, as that's something I do within my FC as an Officer. To come in and declare that we are unworthy of sympathy purely because some mentors are poor is in extremely poor taste, especially coming from someone on another DC that doesn't have to see this day in and day out. You can make assumptions all you like with the knowledge of your own DC, but without coming to ours and seeing that the bulk of our mentors are well-meaning, all it is is an assumption. I'm positive every DC has crappy mentors, or mentors that have the crown but don't make use of the NN at all, but the ones who do in my server are primarily helpful and polite, if a bit joke-y and meme-y at times. And I think that's okay. I don't think the bulk of us have done anything that would deserve the denial of basic empathy for an exceedingly crappy situation.

    If nothing else, think of the impact this has on new players. Someone picks up the free trial, wants to dip their toes in this game that a lot of us seek solace in, just to be greeted by a torrent of slurs and absolutely disgusting behaviour overall. If nothing else, *they* deserve better than that.
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  3. #63
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    Kamatsu's Avatar
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    Aeraelyne Valleana
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    Adamantoise
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    Maybe if the novice network and mentor system was an actual useful thing and not some kinda glorified chat room this kind of stuff wouldn’t happen. Instead you all just want your Burger King crowns as a badge of honour. Zero sympathy
    I can't speak for other server's, but NN on Adamantoise was great for helping players with useful advice, pointing out how to find stuff out, answering questions, etc (I say 'was' solely due to the fact it's been a long time since I've been on NN, but it's always been helpful when I've been on it - multiple times over the years, and for months at a time). So while there might be a whole bunch of ppl all around who don't care and just want the symbol & mount from it... don't label everyone like that.

    Also, you might scoff at Mentor's.... but what about the new players who are basically having their experience ruined by this person? So it's ok for new players to have the game spoiled, to be abused & harrassed just to get at those bad, bad mentors?

    Your attitude smells just like the person doing this garbage. Taking a look at what they are saying, what I remember them saying (when I was still in NN on various characters... they've actually been around a long, long time)... exact same rubbish thought as what your saying.
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  4. #64
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    Corvus Valerius
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    Golem
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    Maybe if the novice network and mentor system was an actual useful thing and not some kinda glorified chat room this kind of stuff wouldn’t happen. Instead you all just want your Burger King crowns as a badge of honour. Zero sympathy


    what does your weird cynical and overly zealous outlook on the mentor system and the novice network have to do with someone spamming racial slurs on alt accounts unmitigated? do you have some kind of special insight into this freak's psyche that we don't?

    like are you actually going to pretend there was never ever a question asked there that was genuinely asked by a sprout, which was answered by a mentor? why the hell else would it exist, and why does it matter that much to you if mentors end up talking to each other there when there aren't questions to be answered? can you explain in what way, your feelings on the matter aren't just as or far more pretentious than desiring an icon? the crafter one isn't even necessarily hard to get; but they all get access.

    and that's giving your thoughts on it like a modicum of credence, which it doesnt deserve in the first place considering the novice network here more or less always answers any question any sprout has asked in it, or eachother's questions, returners, usually politely, etc. other than this one obsessed tool, it's actually a relatively wholesome and helpful network here, so I have honestly no idea what in the world you're referring to
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 12-22-2020 at 08:05 PM.

  5. #65
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    Esteed's Avatar
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    Zunde Esteed
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    Maybe if the novice network and mentor system was an actual useful thing and not some kinda glorified chat room this kind of stuff wouldn’t happen. Instead you all just want your Burger King crowns as a badge of honour. Zero sympathy
    Well it's a good thing that we're not really seeking out the random sympathy of random nobodies with opinions they don't have the experience or the exposure to the problem at hand to effectively comment on but alas when you're trying to light a fire to get attention from on high you're liable to attract moths eager to fling themselves pointlessly into the flame.
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  6. #66
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    Lukh'a Lybhica
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Big troll thread here from a bunch of new posters. Nothing to see here. Moving on.
    I'm not a new poster, and my post history will clearly show I'm not a troll, so if you want to use that as a metric I'll happily confirm everything being stated in this thread is 100% true.

    This troll has reportedly been server hoping all around Aether doing the same thing; I have personally witnessed him spamming everything from laundry lists of slurs to personal attacks against people who had the audacity to censure him in the past, to the URL of this thread in the Adamantoise novice network, 5-12 times approximately every fifteen minutes and then immediately leaving before he can be kicked from the channel. He uses multiple accounts which either have random names or names which impersonate channel regulars. It's honestly gone past upsetting, through sad and into hilarious at this point; I'm almost jealous I haven't gotten a mention yet, guess he just can't come up with any way to insult someone as cool as me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    Maybe if the novice network and mentor system was an actual useful thing and not some kinda glorified chat room this kind of stuff wouldn’t happen. Instead you all just want your Burger King crowns as a badge of honour. Zero sympathy
    Sounds like the novice network on your server needs some work; maybe you should see what you can do about that before you throw accusations at other people.

    OUR NN is typically lively and friendly; a lot of chatting goes on in there (which sprouts often thank us for, since an active channel is less intimidating than screaming questions into the void), but we are more than happy to pause whatever we're talking about if someone asks for help. The regulars have worked hard to build a nice community for both mentors and novices, and to prevent the kind of toxicity the ubiquitous mentor system complaint threads claim is rampant on most servers (there's a reason you never see Adamantoise mentioned in those threads!).

    If the channel was a cesspool normally, no one would notice or care about one more troll moving in, but since it's not, obviously we're going to do whatever we can to keep it clean.


    As an aside, IIRC they encourage giving feedback regarding GM encounters on the forums, I spoke to one GM Reddipton about the matter the other day, and he was quite lovely and professional. I personally have full confidence he and his compatriots will get to the bottom of this and restore peace to our server as soon as they possibly can.
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  7. #67
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    This CLEARLY has been going on for way too long. To anyone casting doubt here: there are posts with LITERAL proof.
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  8. #68
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    E'renndis Harper
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    Moogle
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    To OP, did anyone bother reporting them? Surely if anyone did by now they would have multiple penalties.
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  9. #69
    Player Ammokkx's Avatar
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    Khenda Chelae
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    To OP, did anyone bother reporting them? Surely if anyone did by now they would have multiple penalties.
    have you even been reading this thread

    The man apparently makes throwaway trial accounts en-masse
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  10. #70
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    AstraBraifort's Avatar
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    Astra Braifort
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    To OP, did anyone bother reporting them? Surely if anyone did by now they would have multiple penalties.
    I’ve personally reported this situation multiple times in the last few days, each getting the same response along the lines of “This instance has already been reported, so we’ll only be replying to the initial report made.” I know I’m not the only one on Adamantoise who has reported either, and someone earlier in the thread posted their report history for this as a screenshot, too.
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