Developers : Healer design mentality needs to change

[Absurdity]

The quality of healers in 14 is bad and until it improves I can’t see them making healing more complicated.

And this mindset is why we're in this endless cycle of things becoming dumber and dumber.

Healers are bad because they're either new or can't be bothered to improve --> oh no we need to make them more accessible --> Healers become "more accessible", easier to play and significantly more boring --> people are still bad --> repeat
There will always be people who can not be bothered to put even the absolute minimum effort into playing their job at an acceptable level, you could give them a healer with 3 buttons titled "Heal, Group Heal and Damage" and they would still die, not heal and do 0 dps.


At some point you need to stop making things "more accessible" for them because it will never change.

[Vahlnir]

And this mindset is why we're in this endless cycle of things becoming dumber and dumber.

Healers are bad because they're either new or can't be bothered to improve --> oh no we need to make them more accessible --> Healers become "more accessible", easier to play and significantly more boring --> people are still bad --> repeat
There will always be people who can not be bothered to put even the absolute minimum effort into playing their job at an acceptable level, you could give them a healer with 3 buttons titled "Heal, Group Heal and Damage" and they would still die, not heal and do 0 dps.


At some point you need to stop making things "more accessible" for them because it will never change.

To be honest, I think I'm seeing more "bad" healers anymore BECAUSE of how accessible they have become. The ones who decided to pick up the role and tough it out prior to Shadowbringers were usually the healers I'd want in my party, because they were largely forced to learn to get much of anywhere, because mediocre play really didn't get them very far. Far enough I suppose, but they were quickly sorted in Extreme, Savage and up. Now? Anyone with even just half a brain cell can pick up a healer and heal, but that doesn't make them better if they keep eating mechanics they shouldn't be. There has always been bad players in any job of every role, that much is true. But I think some of that comes down to how easy it is to pick up a job and go on a dime.

[Laphicet]

To be honest, I think I'm seeing more "bad" healers anymore BECAUSE of how accessible they have become. The ones who decided to pick up the role and tough it out prior to Shadowbringers were usually the healers I'd want in my party, because they were largely forced to learn to get much of anywhere, because mediocre play really didn't get them very far. Far enough I suppose, but they were quickly sorted in Extreme, Savage and up. Now? Anyone with even just half a brain cell can pick up a healer and heal, but that doesn't make them better if they keep eating mechanics they shouldn't be. There has always been bad players in any job of every role, that much is true. But I think some of that comes down to how easy it is to pick up a job and go on a dime.

Combine that with experienced healers quitting out of boredom or at disgust on what SE did to their classes, and thus we get the situation we're in now with every other healer in DF being a 0-dps curespammer (or worse, a lazy curespammer who only heals and stands around doing nothing otherwise), even at high levels and level cap content. For example: I just had a healer a few days ago in E10N who refused to do anything but use cure 1 even after being asked politely to use the rest of their kit (even actively refused in chat and kept being smarmy about things). Said healer also intentionally wiped the group instead of using lb3 when we messed up with the boss at 10%, plenty of time to use it (about 45s) but they sat there spamming cure 1 instead.

A lot of healers like that nowadays, getting pissy and smarmy when you try to help and teach them that no, spamming cure1/physik/benefic1 or their GCD heals in general is not the way to play healer. Though I will admit that's the first time I've seen one wipe a group out of pettiness.