35 days before demolish is not okay.

[tdb]

They kinda do have the technology now and the dungeon system kinda proves it through teleports you can have a outdoor instance attached to indoor one so -.-

I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. In a dungeon those would both be instances, and since you mention teleports I assume there's no direct view from one to the other. The problem here is being able to observe a non-instanced area (the housing ward) from an instanced area (your own balcony). Or even observe one instance from another (viewing another player's balcony from your own). I can think of at least a couple of different ways those could be done, given complete freedom over how the game is designed. But it's not so simple when working with an existing game engine to which bits and pieces have been added over many years.

[AncientWillow]

I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. In a dungeon those would both be instances, and since you mention teleports I assume there's no direct view from one to the other. The problem here is being able to observe a non-instanced area (the housing ward) from an instanced area (your own balcony). Or even observe one instance from another (viewing another player's balcony from your own). I can think of at least a couple of different ways those could be done, given complete freedom over how the game is designed. But it's not so simple when working with an existing game engine to which bits and pieces have been added over many years.

What i mean is like hero gauntlet just transport something like that or the eirken system into apartmente where it is instance but insidd is singlr instance that then links up to outside instance .. which allows placemrnt of outdoor furniture. It rlly is easier than it sounds to creste linked instandes. The tools are already in the game.

[tdb]

What i mean is like hero gauntlet just transport something like that or the eirken system into apartmente where it is instance but insidd is singlr instance that then links up to outside instance .. which allows placemrnt of outdoor furniture. It rlly is easier than it sounds to creste linked instandes. The tools are already in the game.

Yes, I think creating an outdoor instance would not be a problem. But what Jojoya is saying is that they don't have the technology to see into the non-instanced ward from your outdoor instance. That kind of thing does not exist in any dungeon. For example even though Heroes' Gauntlet uses the environments from Amh Araeng, Il Mheg and Lakeland, you can't see those actual zones and other players who are not in your instance.

[AncientWillow]

Yes, I think creating an outdoor instance would not be a problem. But what Jojoya is saying is that they don't have the technology to see into the non-instanced ward from your outdoor instance. That kind of thing does not exist in any dungeon. For example even though Heroes' Gauntlet uses the environments from Amh Araeng, Il Mheg and Lakeland, you can't see those actual zones and other players who are not in your instance.

You can if they do it like eureka instance

[tdb]

You can if they do it like eureka instance

You mean Baldesion Arsenal? I've never been there, but I checked a youtube video and it looks like an indoor dungeon, with no visibility to the outside.

[Jojoya]

What i mean is like hero gauntlet just transport something like that or the eirken system into apartmente where it is instance but insidd is singlr instance that then links up to outside instance .. which allows placemrnt of outdoor furniture. It rlly is easier than it sounds to creste linked instandes. The tools are already in the game.

We already have instance to instance links in FC houses for workshops and private chambers.

That's not what some players are asking for. They want to be able to walk in their house (or apartment) to a balcony and see a neighboring house as it's actually decorated or see neighboring players walking around. That it is what SE can't provide with current technology.

Providing a "mock" neighborhood is possible. We can see that through things like the wandering, non-interactive NPCs that wander around the open world zones and places like the Doman Enclave. What one player sees is not necessarily the same as what another player sees, and I think that's what SE is working to incorporate into the housing system.

[Themarvin]

Demo timers is fine, also if you look at houses all wards they are Ghost Cities.

[Kenky]

As for a summary:
-Please increase the numbers of months before your house gets demolished,
-Add a few more wards so this problem of people not being able to buy houses will vanish
-Please and the most important one, if you do not want to consider any of the above, make it so the player doesn't lose his belongings. Make an NPC specifically for the losses of a house that will store every thing you had in it.

Increase number of months? No. Why? because you cannot even guarantee that you'll return to the game in the month you have, so why extend it? It would frankly be quite stupid for SE to invest in making the timer larger, when we already have a notable issue of people just logging on for 5 minutes every month to reset the timer. If you can't do that, despite paying your sub, then that's your problem to solve. Not SEs.

More wards? Sure. But it isn't as simple as a flick of the switch. They have to make sure that when they add more wards, that the servers can actually support it and all its instances, alongside every other faucet of the game. But "more wards" won't inherently fix the problem we have. It'll only Delay it.

Players not lose their stuff? SE had already pointed out, both when you do the quests to unlock the housing wards, as well as (last I checked) telling you when you buy housing items off the Online Store that they will not reimburse you if you lose it. You don't log in enough? House gets flagged. Still don't login despite getting an email saying "Hey, you're losing your house."? It gets demolished and everything gets moved to an NPC. STILL not going to login to get your stuff from the NPC? Then it's gone. Because at that point, SE (And plenty of other players, I might add) would assume you aren't going to come back to the Game for a long time, if at all. Why waste data packets holding onto virtual things for a player that may never show up again? If you lose your stuff, that's on you. Not SE's problem to fix. Especially when other games would slap you for not logging on in 14 days. The month grace period you have is pretty forgiving.

Honestly, it would do everyone a favour to look through all of the old posts that got traction to realize that everything has already been said, discussed and either accepted, or denied. Constantly making new threads to re-hash old topics is just pointless.. Yet here I am, adding a log to that particular fire. So nobody's perfect, I guess.

[Themarvin]

They should make it 15 days, then have to be active subscribed at least to maintain a house.

Also FC's should have at least 6 different members with an unique account each, so not just 1 main 5 alts, and then it should go into decay mode, giving a count down, and at the end of the day, the FC house would be demolished,

[m0gi]

Housing is for people who play the game and actively Utilize their home. its worthless as a show piece and a waste of a home for someone whomst wants it and has plans to use it within its respective community. 35 days is a good, GOOD chunk of time. and if your pulled away from the game for longer than 35 days. its arguable that the dynamic of your life has changed and you have less time to spend on ff, let alone utilize the home