Opinions: Should tanks work for aggro?

[Kabooa]

Hinestly, no, and that is my first issue with the actual state of tanking

Really should have started complaining back in ARR then.

[Vahlnir]

Really should have started complaining back in ARR then.

lol

Yeah, pretty much. This trend started back then, player driven I might add, and the increasing focus on dps continued over time (tanks wearing dps accessories ring a bell?). And here we are now.

Edit: Misread the context a bit. No point in removing it now though.

How is "DPS focus" detrimental to tanking taking effort? For starters, DPS is part of said effort - damage mechanics on tanks used to be more complex before SHB, along with the other, more tanky things and vets are unhappy about all these things being simplified. SHB tanking isn't more "DPS focused", it's just plain dumbed down in just about every aspect - damage, mitigation, positioning, aggro. You might like it because it's less stressful or whatever and such is your right, but it has nothing to do with "DPS focus".

Also you said that pre-SHB tanking was "too much for most people to handle" and that it "still requires effort" despite being made easier - but now suddenly you agree with the notion that it already hasn't required effort since ARR? That just straight up doesn't track.

I will concede that I misread a few things. Trying to keep up with a few threads here. That was not my intention, no. Apologies for that. I think my train of thought clashed with something else. What I'm talking about wasn't quite what someone else was.

[Satarn]

lol

Yeah, pretty much. This trend started back then, player driven I might add, and the increasing focus on dps continued over time (tanks wearing dps accessories ring a bell?). And here we are now.

How is "DPS focus" detrimental to tanking taking effort? For starters, DPS is part of said effort - damage mechanics on tanks used to be more complex before SHB, along with the other, more tanky things and vets are unhappy about all these things being simplified. SHB tanking isn't more "DPS focused", it's just plain dumbed down in just about every aspect - damage, mitigation, positioning, aggro. You might like it because it's less stressful or whatever and such is your right, but it has nothing to do with "DPS focus".

Also you said that pre-SHB tanking was "too much for most people to handle" and that it "still requires effort" despite being made easier - but now suddenly you agree with the notion that it already hasn't required effort since ARR? That just straight up doesn't track.