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  1. #391
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    Yes, you are right, because now you will have no friends list, your second largest linkshell is moving to a different server than your largest linkshell and you will never see your longtime friends that took a break and will be forced to migrate to many different servers.

    Why not just throw your cell phone away and see how many people call your new number?
    And what's the matter? Do neither of your linkshells wish to compromise on the same server? And for people who say they're making friends on the forums and such--those who say "I wish you were on this server" ect. they get no option in this?

    It's a game...Yes the people in it are real--but if you're thinking that "Ohhay! I'ma change my phone number and throw away my old one--let's see all my friends call my new one." And expect that NO ONE will call--are they your friends? If you didn't give them the new number in the first place--who's fault is that, there's?

    And if you read my full post, I already stated that who knows? They will probably give an option to those who weren't on during this period to get a free transfer in 2.0. Also I said after reading the full post of what options they had, 2 would be more effective--but I guess you got TLDR after reading something you didn't like~. ^^
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  2. #392
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    Halvaard_Vidan's Avatar
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    Halvaard Vidan
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    So instead of Merging worlds in a way that would allow most linkshells to stay togeather, ie A into B, A+B into C, A+B-C into D or E, they go with the option that will cause our inactive friends to be flung to the far corners of Eorza...

    Just don't assign inactive account to a server until they return, that way they at least have a chance of returning to their previous group, if they server the group ends up on isn't full.

  3. #393
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    WhiteTerror's Avatar
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    Sasarya Hihirya
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    Most servers are going to come together and pick which new servers to port to anyway. Just take a peek in all the server threads.

    Trabia specifically has many linkshells and we do our own thing, but we all help each other out in some way. Most of us are in a good place atm and get along with each other. We know how to deal with each other. We have a history with each other. It's not really what the community wants. At all. Like, how did they not factor in the instances where severs generally as a whole really like each other and probably don't really want to be ripped apart?

    It's ridiculous. Again, we're just all going to select the same server anyway. So, why present this option? This option has the least logic to it. Also, I find it hilarious that you mention that you were later going to give us a chance to pick which option is better AFTER you release this information. Just admit it was unintelligent and that you are wrong for choosing it. We'll forgive you.

    Just stick with option B and be done with it. It's the only one that makes everyone happy and if you have to work MORE to make it happen, whatever. We're paying customers now. We should have the basic option of how the hell our community is managed as we f^&*ing built it. Don't know why I am so angry. I'm just so disappointed in their decision and it tells a story about the decision making of the development team. If these are the options you mutually agree on how the hell can we trust in your major decisions in the future? You've already displayed how unintelligent it can be. I am a big believer in if people or things show me who and what they are about, I believe them the first time.
    +1.
    Nicely put.
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  4. #394
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssppiikkeeyy View Post
    is it just me or does anyone else think Yoshida and his team must be on crack after that post?
    I think they're just misguided.
    Personally, I don't understand why they where so afraid of options 1-3. As if it was too big a risk to take.
    What's up with that? Those are the traditional routes, and they work. The biggest risk is going with this random grab bag server play.
    They might as well just shove linkshells into random servers because that's essentially what's happening.

    Giving us the option between 10 random servers is like giving us the option to eat one of 10 bread rolls. They're all the same as far as we know. There's no point to a choice without distinction.

    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Once again you're guessing. Really smart.

    You know SE didn't even have to give any of you the common courtesy of a choice. The word Ingrates comes to mind.

    However you are getting choices. It's your choice to continue playing the game. If you're going to over analyze and complain about every damn decision the developers make then maybe you should go play an MMO that is Perfect and meets your every desire. Good Luck.
    How dare you.
    I've been nothing but positive with my support over this game in the past year and a half. And now that I have a problem with pointless choice and unnecessary random dissection of my server I'm suddenly an ingrate?

    I'll continue to be playing this game after the merger, even if it turns out to be sour on my end. I'll make new friends, and remember the old, but I still hold the opinion that I shouldn't have to loose the old at all because of a lack of direction on the part of Square.
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  5. #395
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    Boye Fran
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Once again you're guessing. Really smart.

    You know SE didn't even have to give any of you the common courtesy of a choice. The word Ingrates comes to mind.

    However you are getting choices. It's your choice to continue playing the game. If you're going to over analyze and complain about every damn decision the developers make then maybe you should go play an MMO that is Perfect and meets your every desire. Good Luck.
    Um... they gave us options after the fact. This post I bet you was built upon and quickly released BECAUSE of the back lash, but making it seem like it was their plan all along. It doesn't make sense. Which usually means it is a lie. They could have just said, "Yeah, our bad. It wasn't a great option, you're right. You pick which option then"

    Instead, they quickly release a statement making it seem that it was their plan to give us an option all along. If that were true, we'd get the options in the original front page post, but they didn't.
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  6. #396
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    Hiir Noivl
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    I haven't so far heard a single convincing argument why SE made a wrong move with this.

    He already addressed what everyone's posting and reposting. If you still have questions, I suggest you read YoshiP's post again, however, this time more slowly and with less bias.
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  7. #397
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    Dudes, Yoshi-P ASKED for our feedback just now. Stop calling people whiny babies if they have criticisms about the current merge plan. When you sling insults like that, then YOU'RE the one coming across as immature.



    Anyway, I'm glad Yoshi-P addressed the "inactive players go to random worlds" issue; giving us transfer options at 2.0 should help with that. I'm still not totally happy with the server merge option ④ they chose, but his response did help a bit at least.
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  8. #398
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
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    This is just the initial merge. SE has only revealed how they are going about handling the current population.

    Their is still "the future" where SE can allow server transfers for existing or returning players. For those of you with friends who are on hiatus, or waiting for ver 2.0 there may still be hope for them down the road.

    yes it would have been nice if SE had a more robust description of how they plan to handle returning players. But I'm sure they haven't discounted them entirely, those accounts don't pertain to the current matter at hand: "Present Player Population"
    This. The players that are inactive will get another chance to transfer with the rest of us when 2.0 and new servers come.
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  9. #399
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halvaard_Vidan View Post
    So instead of Merging worlds in a way that would allow most linkshells to stay togeather, ie A into B, A+B into C, A+B-C into D or E, they go with the option that will cause our inactive friends to be flung to the far corners of Eorza...

    Just don't assign inactive account to a server until they return, that way they at least have a chance of returning to their previous group, if they server the group ends up on isn't full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    And what's the matter? Do neither of your linkshells wish to compromise on the same server? And for people who say they're making friends on the forums and such--those who say "I wish you were on this server" ect. they get no option in this?

    It's a game...Yes the people in it are real--but if you're thinking that "Ohhay! I'ma change my phone number and throw away my old one--let's see all my friends call my new one." And expect that NO ONE will call--are they your friends? If you didn't give them the new number in the first place--who's fault is that, there's?

    And if you read my full post, I already stated that who knows? They will probably give an option to those who weren't on during this period to get a free transfer in 2.0. Also I said after reading the full post of what options they had, 2 would be more effective--but I guess you got TLDR after reading something you didn't like~. ^^
    Unless everyone knows everyone on a server, the "community" for each person on a server is something different and depends on the bonds that person made with other people. Like Gramul said, we're talking about huge spiderwebs here. If you have a small linkshell with 10 people and you consider the bonds every person has in that linkshell and want to get everyone who those people know to the same server and the ones they know... you'll probably end up dragging half if not the whole original server to the new one.

    It's not just a matter of a few linkshells that need to move to the same server -_-
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