Predictions for job(s) in the next expansion?

[Ultimatecalibur]

I'd be the least surprised if it was some Healer and Caster pair specifically so Alphinaud and Alisaie could swap jobs like the other Scions.

Alisaie doesn't really need to be locked into a Caster Role. Remember Thancred went from Melee dps to Tank.

1) Isn't it kinda late in the game to introduce a new sub-role? The devs have already confirmed they're trying to even out the ones we have; assuming the current 2 Job limit, they'd need to add a new melee for five out of the next eight expansions (or nothing but melee for at least the next two) to keep up, which would be extremely tiresome with 2 year gaps between each; it would murder hype for expansions. Not to mention that melee DPS are already in the minority within raid comps, and this would increase competition for the slot.
2) Mechanically, what would a Melee Magical role even do differently than Physical Melee DPS? Ranged and Casters at least have distinct LB shapes from each other; Melee have a single-target attack, which is the big reason at least one is kept in raid comps, but it's hard to make a competitive side-grade to that. That's before getting into their role actions to boot...
3) Going back to the first point, the only job I can think of that would fit such a slot would be Rune Fencer (et al). There aren't many other jobs they could make to fill out such a role that aren't already represented by existing jobs like DRK, NIN and RDM.

The term "Archetype" would likely be a better description of what Jandor was referring to. Currently both Paladin and Dark Knight partially fall into the "Mage Warrior" archetype but I fully understand that many players want a DPS version.

[Jandor]

The term "Archetype" would likely be a better description of what Jandor was referring to. Currently both Paladin and Dark Knight partially fall into the "Mage Warrior" archetype but I fully understand that many players want a DPS version.

Pretty much.

Technically what I actually want is Magitek Garlean Greatsword job, a mix of Hydrus and Nero. The "Tech-Mage Warrior" job.

I'm not expecting anything like that of course, although the mention of the Garleans developing magitek job-stones did give me the slimmest glimmer of hope.

[Sairys]

The term "Archetype" would likely be a better description of what Jandor was referring to. Currently both Paladin and Dark Knight partially fall into the "Mage Warrior" archetype but I fully understand that many players want a DPS version.

To me, the issue probably comes down so the conflation of theme and mechanical role being a limiter.

For example, the website says ranged magical jobs excel at burst damage while ranged physical jobs are sustained dps and supports. Whereas if you just took that out, you could just have the three roles and the disciplines, then those other mechanical attributes would just be sub-roles.
i.e DNC might be DoW DPS with sub-roles of sustained dps, buffer, and hybrid range.

Opens up options because the only slots you'd need to put a job into are a role and discipline. So GEO could be something like DoM DPS, sub-roles burst dps, buffer, melee or PLD could just be reassigned to DoM.

[Sairys]

Pretty much.

Technically what I actually want is Magitek Garlean Greatsword job, a mix of Hydrus and Nero. The "Tech-Mage Warrior" job.

I'm not expecting anything like that of course, although the mention of the Garleans developing magitek job-stones did give me the slimmest glimmer of hope.

Reminds me of one of the theme things for how I see melee range DoM heh.
Basically, they'd have something which lets them cheat their way around casting times. Magitek handling the casting process for you with this. PLDs using requiescat to get rid of cast times for a bit and NIN mudras are in the same boat for me if things went that way.

[Tracewood]

Pretty much.

Technically what I actually want is Magitek Garlean Greatsword job, a mix of Hydrus and Nero. The "Tech-Mage Warrior" job.

I'm not expecting anything like that of course, although the mention of the Garleans developing magitek job-stones did give me the slimmest glimmer of hope.

Maybe with Capcom's permission they could make the next tank use a SwitchAxe (sword/axe that changes) and have it be some Magitek themed class. Japanese companies have been doing a lot of collaborating lately.

[Tsiron]

stop giving Tanks the coolest weapons please lol

[ADVSS]

stop giving Tanks the coolest weapons please lol

If it makes you feel better switchaxe is more of a DPS weapon, however Charge Blade could definitely apply as a tank weapon

[Archwizard]

Alisaie doesn't really need to be locked into a Caster Role. Remember Thancred went from Melee dps to Tank.

Fair enough. Alisaie did make a rather grand example of making a sword from aether since the back-line wasn't her style, after all, so her penchant for reckless abandon would fit either a Melee or a Melee-hybrid job (assuming she switched next expansion at all). Her martial training with X'rhun applies pretty squarely to small swords which makes RDM a perfect fit for her personality, though a Spellblade could also work out for her.

I simply find it unlikely they would implement another full Melee at this juncture... unless they suddenly turned around and tried to have it both ways of calling BLU a 4th Caster (thus making it "free game" on which remaining role to add next) despite being Limited, which would no doubt garner a LOT of flak. Likewise, another Melee-hybrid Caster would step on RDM's toes.

[Sairys]

Fair enough. Alisaie did make a rather grand example of making a sword from aether since the back-line wasn't her style, after all, so her penchant for reckless abandon would fit either a Melee or a Melee-hybrid job (assuming she switched next expansion at all). Her martial training with X'rhun applies pretty squarely to small swords which makes RDM a perfect fit for her personality, though a Spellblade could also work out for her.

I simply find it unlikely they would implement another full Melee at this juncture... unless they suddenly turned around and tried to have it both ways of calling BLU a 4th Caster (thus making it "free game" on which remaining role to add next) despite being Limited, which would no doubt garner a LOT of flak. Likewise, another Melee-hybrid Caster would step on RDM's toes.

If BLU counted then Ranged Physical would seemingly be next up before a melee as that would give four to every role but seems pretty unlikely it'd actually count. The only way I see it happening is if, yeah, we get like melee magical as a role which would then have the least jobs.

[wereotter]

Alisaie doesn't really need to be locked into a Caster Role. Remember Thancred went from Melee dps to Tank.

Fun fact, Thancred actually changed jobs more than just the once. He started ARR as a Gladiator.

You don't really get to see him fight much unless you start in Ul'Dah, but in that part of the story, he uses a sword and shield and and swapped to rogue once that job was released.