Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
I ran CLL on day... 2 or 3, when barely anyone knew what was going on.
We had about 17/18 people. (I'm sure about this because we only had one party of 8 up the top in the first boss, and we still killed it before the bottom group and had to fight off waves of magitek because of it)
Only a few people had done it before.
We still cleared and saved five prisoners.

Of my 5 or so subsequent runs, all of which were clears, though only one six-save, I don't think I ever had more than about 22 players.

I can only assume the issues that have arised are due to people being defeatist and giving up before even starting, and some really bad players that just keep dying to AoEs.
Everyone's experience is different. For me, out of every 5 or so runs...only 1 raid seems capable of making it past the first boss, and even then they probably won't clear. I got real lucky last night and managed to get mine, but I haven't been able to repeat that success prior to that run or since.