is the diadem being removed in ishgard housing update?

[Shibi]

I hope not, it's a great way to catch-up level.

[RicaRuin]

There's still a ranking season in 5.4, and Yoshi said it's the last one. I honestly expect the housing to come in 5.5 since the restoration will be over before that. But no clue if the whole crafting/gathering thing will go away with the restoration or if they'll find a way to keep it, they said nothing on the topic.

Tbh, I don't think Housing would make it into the 5.5 Patches. I'm more expecting them to use the Ishgard Housing area (if it is coming, since nothing is confirmed) as a big selling point for 6.0, with the actual release in 6.1.

But damn, I really hope they turn it into instanced Housing the player is gifted with in 5.5x.

Diadem will stay, I suppose, maybe they'll add some materials that a lot of crafts use or shards and crystals. Or materials from all reconstruction phases for the achievements.

[Jojoya]

Tbh, I don't think Housing would make it into the 5.5 Patches. I'm more expecting them to use the Ishgard Housing area (if it is coming, since nothing is confirmed) as a big selling point for 6.0, with the actual release in 6.1.

They don't need it to be a big selling point for 6.0. There will be plenty of other new content that will sell the expansion.

If housing is that big a draw for new players, they're better off releasing it in 5.5. Get them to buy the game sooner instead of waiting until next expansion. It would also ease the frustations of existing players to a small degree if it's a standard ward and to a larger degree if it's a new form of instanced housing. They really can't afford to delay an effective response to the housing situation much longer.

[RicaRuin]

They don't need it to be a big selling point for 6.0. There will be plenty of other new content that will sell the expansion.

If housing is that big a draw for new players, they're better off releasing it in 5.5. Get them to buy the game sooner instead of waiting until next expansion. It would also ease the frustations of existing players to a small degree if it's a standard ward and to a larger degree if it's a new form of instanced housing. They really can't afford to delay an effective response to the housing situation much longer.

But they also know how much the veterans want Ishgard as well. I'm not saying you're wrong, your point are all right and it would be nice if it hit sooner. But SE is still a company and is out for profit, and if they can use Ishgard housing to make people buy 6.0 rather than hope they will stay for the story...

[Frizze]

That actually raises an interesting question. How many people play and pay for an MMO without getting the latest expansion? Im sure there are some, but the number has to be fleetingly small doesnt it?

[Jojoya]

That actually raises an interesting question. How many people play and pay for an MMO without getting the latest expansion? Im sure there are some, but the number has to be fleetingly small doesnt it?

For MMOs in general, not necessarily. Look at WoW - buy the base game and you've got content from 5 expansions. That's a good 1000+ hours of game play if you do everything at least once. Unless you're only interested in end game content, there's little need to buy Battle for Azeroth.

For FFXIV, the number is probably pretty small. Until 5.3 was released, the base game only included ARR/post-ARR while Shadowbringers included Heavensward and Stormblood in addition to Shadowbringers. Players would be a lot more likely to want to buy the expansion as a result, especially since the content in the later expansions has a much better reputation than ARR did. With HW now part of the base game, there's less pressure for the new player to buy an expansion.

[Kleeya]

While the firmament sure looks like a housing map, when i see so many people 100% sure that we will get some Ishgard housing even though SE did never confirm it, it seems that a big part of the community did learn nothing of the dancer 100% sure to be a healer XD

Especially when we have being told many times that the firmament is for the poor citizens of Ishgard. Are we gonna expropriate them all so that the adventurers can snatch all the plots ? It doesn't really fit the strong emphasis FF14 has on the lore.

[ItMe]

Have they even confirmed that in Ish we're making player housing?
I hope I've just missed the memo, but it seems that's a conclusion we've all come to on our own.

[Jojoya]

Have they even confirmed that in Ish we're making player housing?
I hope I've just missed the memo, but it seems that's a conclusion we've all come to on our own.

YoshiP said in an interview he did prior to the last Live Letter than Ishgard housing for players will be coming after the Restoration is completed on all worlds.

Keep in mind he didn't say "as soon as it is completed". He said "after".

So it could be 5.5 or 6.0 or even 6.5 but yes, there will eventually be Ishgard housing for players. Considering the COVID situation and how that made it difficult to increase the current number of wards as they had hoped to do, what they originally intended could end up delayed if they continue to have problems getting the work done to install new housing servers.

What form will that housing actually be? We don't know yet. We can only guess from what we see, which appears to be a standard ward design.

[ItMe]

Excellent @Jojoya, thanks for the information.