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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    The simplest answer is that the Open World needs to contain valuable things for the player to covet.
    So, would people be OK with the mass dcs they get in the open world when mass hunt/fate trains are going? Because with how many people play this game on underspecced hardware. That will be a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    So, would people be OK with the mass dcs they get in the open world when mass hunt/fate trains are going? Because with how many people play this game on underspecced hardware. That will be a lot.
    All I said was the Open World needs to contain valuable things for the player to covet. I said nothing about trains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    All I said was the Open World needs to contain valuable things for the player to covet. I said nothing about trains.
    Well, when valuable things exist, tons of people want them. Like hunts did, and fates in eureka.

    They are a thing that happens naturally because everyone wants them.


    If you put things people want in the open world, and it's battle content, there will be trains for them. This is unavoidable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Well, when valuable things exist, tons of people want them. Like hunts did, and fates in eureka.

    They are a thing that happens naturally because everyone wants them.


    If you put things people want in the open world, and it's battle content, there will be trains for them. This is unavoidable.
    In Runescape, they had treasure hunts that were entirely solo endeavors and potentially had rare, best in game rewards at the end of them. No trains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    In Runescape, they had treasure hunts that were entirely solo endeavors and potentially had rare, best in game rewards at the end of them. No trains.
    Oh you mean like maps? We already have those with rare rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Oh you mean like maps? We already have those with rare rewards.
    They can correct me if wrong but I believe the intent was to example open world content that doesn't produce issues you mentioned. About the server instability and such. Which is to say, if I understand them right, that you can absolutely add and have open world content without trains or server crashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    They can correct me if wrong but I believe the intent was to example open world content that doesn't produce issues you mentioned. About the server instability and such. Which is to say, if I understand them right, that you can absolutely add and have open world content without trains or server crashing.
    Well, it's not the servers that crash, it's people playing on toasters.


    Most players are either on ps4s, or laptops that can barely play the game, in my experience.

    Those are the people you see mass dcing in hunt trains and the like.


    Also, to create "meaningful" open world content means it needs to be accessible, which means spawned things (like maps), or random things like hunts (that would get zerged cuz loot)


    If you think they are going to give away the best obtainable gear from easy stuff like maps, yeah no.


    And maps of savage difficulty I don't ever see happening.


    And for solo maps, they'd have to design the fights for what, 17 different jobs? Otherwise you'd basically have a repeat of potd, with rdm being the only one able to clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Oh you mean like maps? We already have those with rare rewards.
    If those treasure maps had best in game items and gear, then I have been completely ignorant of that. Could be bad luck. All the times I went with my FC for maps, the primary intent for everyone else was to get Gil which is almost a worthless currency now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    So, would people be OK with the mass dcs they get in the open world when mass hunt/fate trains are going? Because with how many people play this game on underspecced hardware. That will be a lot.
    That is more a side effect of A ranks being on a 3 hour timer. With there only being 12 ShB A ranks every 3 hours people bunch up to get as many pie pieces as possible. If A ranks were on 1 hour timers trains would likely be less necessary and less problematic.
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