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    Well, the difference would be, Ultimates require 8 people to be near masters of their job and reacting to mechanics. Takes a lot of time to learn the fights and execute them properly, but like any other fight in the game, once you learn the script by heart, then you can consistently beat it over and over and over.

    Soloing PoTD and HoH is not really that hard, but you cannot guarantee a win without the use of the spin exploit. The spin exploit is making use of a movement based glitch wherein, if you are a precise distance from a monster's frame center, and you run circles around them at the right speed, they will spin incessantly, unable to even auto attack. It works on bosses too. This obviously takes a lot of practice if you want to be able to use it on any monster, as the size and difference between monster frames makes the distant and movement slightly different for every monster.

    Without learning the spin exploit, you will be reliant on good RNG, especially the worse your job is for the task at hand. AST is the worst job to take, because its personal DPS is very very bad at the level range and substat limitation that you experience in both Deep Dungeons.

    MCH, RDM, or any tank is a pretty solid choice these days, due to the reworks and insane potency increases. MCH's ability to kill fast while moving away from the monster while also engaging from 20y away is insane. That and you can pretty much start every other monster with Reassemble + Drill for an Auto Direct Crit 700 pot attack.

    It's not too hard to consistently get down to the 181 floors of PoTD nor the 81+ floors of HoH, but on average, your luck runs out during or after these floorsets, resulting in no useful pomanders or debuff floors not allowing you to use useful ones.

    Any player that can get a legitimate clear of an Ultimate could legitimately clear HoH or PoTD solo. They just have to put in however many attempts it takes them to get good RNG or learn the spin exploit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Soloing PoTD and HoH is not really that hard, but you cannot guarantee a win without the use of the spin exploit. Without learning the spin exploit, you will be reliant on good RNG, especially the worse your job is for the task at hand.
    Nah most jobs don't need to do spin exploit. Only melee DPS really need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanCody View Post
    Nah most jobs don't need to do spin exploit. Only melee DPS really need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    lol im not trolling on ranged classes... well, you kite. on tanks you're tanky enough to just ignore spinning.
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