FF14 is not made for hardcore players.

[BelegErkhten]

I can understand rolling your eyes at the schizos who don't actually care about the game and just want to show off how big their e-peen is by getting 99 parses on the newest raid tier, because I do too, its just vapid dong-waving. The problem is posts like this get used as an excuse to be terrible at the game, and I know it is because up until around June it was literally the same excuse I was using, and its the same garbage excuse my IRL friends use when I tell them to stop being lazy.

"I just wanna play casually" is just another way of saying "I want to put in absolutely no effort and everyone else can suck it" Its an incredibly selfish and toxic attitude that people were supposed to get out of back in public school. Its the one lazy kid who you get stuck doing a group project with and he does nothing and you all fail because one guy is just a lazy A-hole

When I get stuck in Sastasha in duty roulette and I ask the tank to not single pull the entire dungeon and his response is "Sorry I'm not a hardcore player" I'm forced to waste the next ten minutes with this idiot or else I get nailed with a penalty.

Just this morning I had some buffoon in Praetorium playing as DRG he didn't use Disembowel or his Jumps at all the entire run (And this guy was Level 72) He is objectively playing wrong, he might as well have just logged out because he literally contributed nothing to our party and made the run take like and extra 5 minutes.

The game needs some kind of button you can toggle when signing up for a duty that says "I am a lazy bum" and by toggling it you only ever get paired with the uber casuals who just wanna spam Cure 1 in Holmiester switch.

[Silica-chan]

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I heard myths about a feature that allows you to go into content with a pre-made group of like minded people to completely avoid the chance to get matched with people that do not share the same mindset as yourself.


*ducks down and puts on a helmet*

[BelegErkhten]

I heard myths about a feature that allows you to go into content with a pre-made group of like minded people to completely avoid the chance to get matched with people that do not share the same mindset as yourself.


*ducks down and puts on a helmet*

You don't get Roulette bonuses from premade, so no.

[SavishSalacious]

You don't get Roulette bonuses from premade, so no.

Then deal with who you get or don't participate. Simple as that.

[BelegErkhten]

Then deal with who you get or don't participate. Simple as that.

Stop encouraging people to never improve. You're an enabler of toxic behaviour.

[TribalReturns]

I can understand rolling your eyes at the schizos who don't actually care about the game and just want to show off how big their e-peen is by getting 99 parses on the newest raid tier, because I do too, its just vapid dong-waving. The problem is posts like this get used as an excuse to be terrible at the game, and I know it is because up until around June it was literally the same excuse I was using, and its the same garbage excuse my IRL friends use when I tell them to stop being lazy.

"I just wanna play casually" is just another way of saying "I want to put in absolutely no effort and everyone else can suck it" Its an incredibly selfish and toxic attitude that people were supposed to get out of back in public school. Its the one lazy kid who you get stuck doing a group project with and he does nothing and you all fail because one guy is just a lazy A-hole

When I get stuck in Sastasha in duty roulette and I ask the tank to not single pull the entire dungeon and his response is "Sorry I'm not a hardcore player" I'm forced to waste the next ten minutes with this idiot or else I get nailed with a penalty.

Just this morning I had some buffoon in Praetorium playing as DRG he didn't use Disembowel or his Jumps at all the entire run (And this guy was Level 72) He is objectively playing wrong, he might as well have just logged out because he literally contributed nothing to our party and made the run take like and extra 5 minutes.

The game needs some kind of button you can toggle when signing up for a duty that says "I am a lazy bum" and by toggling it you only ever get paired with the uber casuals who just wanna spam Cure 1 in Holmiester switch.

"I can understand rolling your eyes at the schizos who don't actually care about the game"<
"and just want to show off how big their e-peen is by getting 99 parses"<
"because I do too"<
"the schizo"<

Yeah you're truly out of touch. You contradicted yourself twice. Why would you even try to correlate wanting to get a top parse and "being lazy" with your goofy anecdote. Some people genuinely could care less about a parse and by your logic they are being lazy and shouldn't play the game. If you can't bear with a casual player in a freaking duty roulette then take your pseudo-elitist attitude and queue up with your "friends" ez fix. This game shouldn't have to suffer subscription numbers because you want everyone to git gud. Join a static and be elite all you want and lets see how long you last

[linayar]

And if they do so they're being the toxic ones, wasting other people's time.

It depends on the advice and how it was presented and rejected. And time is not guaranteed for anything, so that alone does not make one toxic necessarily.

[Veis_Alveare]

It depends on the advice and how it was presented and rejected. And time is not guaranteed for anything, so that alone does not make one toxic necessarily.

Good advice can be presented curtly and it can still be good advice which should be considered and taken if it helps you improve. The only advice I could justify dismissing out of hand would be that which I know to be false or something presented alongside a literal, direct insult. If neither of those things is true then no, how its presented doesn't matter.

Yes, wasting other people's time needlessly is toxic. Nothing you say will make it otherwise.

[linayar]

Good advice can be presented curtly and it can still be good advice which should be considered and taken if it helps you improve. The only advice I could justify dismissing out of hand would be that which I know to be false or something presented alongside a literal, direct insult. If neither of those things is true then no, how its presented doesn't matter.

So presentation does matter.

Yes, wasting other people's time needlessly is toxic. Nothing you say will make it otherwise.

Nothing I say may change your mind, but I don't need to. In the end, every group will decide how a run goes, and considering I've seen many slower runs where there were no issues among the group, that's enough to tell me it's not inherently toxic to be slow.

[Veis_Alveare]

So presentation does matter.

Nothing I say may change your mind, but I don't need to. In the end, every group will decide how a run goes, and considering I've seen many slower runs where there were no issues among the group, that's enough to tell me it's not inherently toxic to be slow.

Yeah, I'm sure a full group of people who have no idea what they're doing might not be able to tell how bad things are going. You can stick toddlers in front of calculus and they'll draw on the paper with crayons rather than do the math.