Female Hrothgar and Male Viera

[MOZZYSTAR]

There are four non-petite female options, I'd love to see some FemHroth to make it five options, but the wording of tired of only being to play a petite female race is a bit odd.

Four... non... petit... females...
You mean height and not build don't you? I think the OP is talking about build. Regardless of the race, only femme roes have broad builds. The rest, despite height, are all very petite in build.

[Jandor]

Four... non... petit... females...
You mean height and not build don't you? I think the OP is talking about build. Regardless of the race, only femme roes have broad builds. The rest, despite height, are all very petite in build.

A minimum height fem Highlander, the shortest option of the four, is still 5ft6". I don't think anyone can honestly say they would describe a woman who is several inches taller than the majority of women (in-game and out) as petite, no matter how slim or athletic her build.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Four... non... petit... females...
You mean height and not build don't you? I think the OP is talking about build. Regardless of the race, only femme roes have broad builds. The rest, despite height, are all very petite in build.

I don't think you really know what petite means.

[MsQi]

I don't think you really know what petite means.

it's all relative.

[reivaxe]

it's all relative.

It's not, really.

Also always strange seeing people whine about "hats and hair first" when this topic comes up. What goes into adding a new female/ male model and what's keeping the Hrothgar and Viera in game from getting hats and hair are 2 completely different beast to solve. I'd take the current limits of the Viera any day of the week if it got me Female Hrothgar personally so I don't see the point in people bringing it up every time others talk about wanting the other genders.

[Yencat]

It's not, really.

Also always strange seeing people whine about "hats and hair first" when this topic comes up. What goes into adding a new female/ male model and what's keeping the Hrothgar and Viera in game from getting hats and hair are 2 completely different beast to solve. I'd take the current limits of the Viera any day of the week if it got me Female Hrothgar personally so I don't see the point in people bringing it up every time others talk about wanting the other genders.

Why not? In topics about the hair and headgear people also come in talking about how they'd rather have the other genders, or completely dismissing it by calling people impatient or ungrateful. I see two comments saying they'd rather see hair and headgear first, hardly whining.

Also wouldn't female Hrothgar be more likely to share the male Hrothgar limitations rather than Viera's? I'm sure male Hrothgar would be a lot happier if they had Viera limitations too.

[reivaxe]

Why not? In topics about the hair and headgear people also come in talking about how they'd rather have the other genders, or completely dismissing it by calling people impatient or ungrateful. I see two comments saying they'd rather see hair and headgear first, hardly whining.

Also wouldn't female Hrothgar be more likely to share the male Hrothgar limitations rather than Viera's? I'm sure male Hrothgar would be a lot happier if they had Viera limitations too.

People talk down those constantly asking about hats-n-hair cause we HAVE gotten confirmation a number of times that those things are coming "at some point/ we're working on it/ just wait a bit longer please". Those who want Female Hrothgar and Male Viera haven't gotten anything, not a word from the devs about that coming down the line or even a crumb of hope. This type of non-sense comes up all the time, someone makes a thread about something and someone takes it as a chance to whine about this same issue in a drive by post that's actually been addressed by the devs in a q-n-a or stream or interview that they would know if they looked into the matter through googling.

As for Female Hrothgar, I don't assume anything. The in game art depiction of them just leaves them bald and as far as I'm concerned the backlash to the current state of these limited races may lead to any number of different approaches to these genders if they ever do them. I could easily see a case for Viera males having their ears use the Miqote head system so they can be treated like a normal race for example. I could see the problems of Hrothgar and Viera going the way of Highlander Eyebrows for their gender counter parts.

Either way, I personally wouldn't care if I was stuck with 1 hair style if I liked it and liked my race/ gender combo.

[Yencat]

People talk down those constantly asking about hats-n-hair cause we HAVE gotten confirmation a number of times that those things are coming "at some point/ we're working on it/ just wait a bit longer please". Those who want Female Hrothgar and Male Viera haven't gotten anything, not a word from the devs about that coming down the line or even a crumb of hope. This type of non-sense comes up all the time, someone makes a thread about something and someone takes it as a chance to whine about this same issue in a drive by post that's actually been addressed by the devs in a q-n-a or stream or interview that they would know if they looked into the matter through googling.

As for Female Hrothgar, I don't assume anything. The in game art depiction of them just leaves them bald and as far as I'm concerned the backlash to the current state of these limited races may lead to any number of different approaches to these genders if they ever do them. I could easily see a case for Viera males having their ears use the Miqote head system so they can be treated like a normal race for example. I could see the problems of Hrothgar and Viera going the way of Highlander Eyebrows for their gender counter parts.

Either way, I personally wouldn't care if I was stuck with 1 hair style if I liked it and liked my race/ gender combo.

If they had actually said "we're still working on it, just wait a bit longer please" any time in the last 8/9 months there'd be a lot less people butting into these threads or starting new ones about it. For all we know they consider what they're doing right now 'continuing to work towards alleviating these issues'.

Ideally we'd all be able to get on board with female Hrothgar and male Viera without having to worry about what that means for female Viera and male Hrothgar development, but when the messaging from SE more often than not is " Well, we wanted to do both but we could only do one" it's not entirely unrealistic to think that if they're working on male Viera and female Hrothgar that cuts into time spent working on their counterparts. Unless, like you said, they actually plan to launch both of them bald and/or hat-less, which seems unlikely to me.

Hopefully they're working on something big for character creation next expansion and we can all be happy, but if they do decide to just add f-Hrothgar/m-Viera I'll be happy for those that want them and hope they will work towards making them all feel more complete.

[BelegErkhten]

Personally I think letting them wear hats should be the first priority

[Theodric]

Personally I think letting them wear hats should be the first priority

Eh, I'd rather have access to the playable races in full. That's far more glaring than not being able to use most headgear - especially when the lack of hats is very much in line with the flaws other race/gender combinations already deal with such as highlander men not having access to eyebrows.