Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[SeanCody]

You don't have to prove anything and I'm not lashing out at you. It's just that you were boasting of your skills so I was really curious to see it in person. It's natural for people to become interested in you as a player after the things you wrote in the forums:

1. You said you are a superior player
2. You said I'm bad and that I paid for savage and ultimate clears
3. When I invite you to play multiple times, you reject every single invitation
4. You hide your logs
5. You hide who your "main" toon is

So of course I become very curious to the type of player you are. You can't blame people for being curious when you make claims like that. It's nothing hostile on my part.

its actually kind of funny how someone-who-shall-not-be-named goes around shaming "grey schs" but hides their own performance. got curious after that someone-who-shall-not-be-named trashtalked a troll op (which is kinda funny in itself) and my god the post history is just full of log shaming but you can't look up their own logs... very on the nose don't you think?

there are fairly straightforward reasons to /doubt though once you realize two things in their post history obviously don't match each other. plus it's not that hard to do a filter query on the-website-that-shall-not-be-named based on all publicly available information from the post history... hmm... sorry for your ban, but i'm just laughing at people attacking triple legends in this thread. people think triple legends go around shaming "grey schs" lol, and if you don't treat dungeons as super hardcore content and tell people to slow down you must have bought your clears this is why i come to the forums it's hilarious

to break the fourth wall a bit: i'm half-serious when i say that the community is toxic, and log-shaming is one of the craziest things that i've witnessed. most of the actual high-performing players don't go around looking up people's logs on the forums, reddit, discord, or in-game, and tell them they're bad players. i play a lot with many triple legends and i rarely, rarely hear people mocking grey players. plus every good player knows that the-website-that-shall-not-be-named in shadowbringers is a crit-farming rng-fest where much of the top 20 farm like 1000 runs to get a good high rank run. so why are people even being elitist over that website.

not even the hundredth time i see someone making fun of someone's performance on the-website-that-shall-not-be-named. this keeps happening and you wonder why the "raiding community is toxic" posts appear with or without a troll

next time i see log-shaming i'm probably going to start reporting it because it's plain harassment

[Avatre]

Your nephew is not alone. I know so many players who just skip thru dialogue and cutscenes then complain that they have no idea what's going on.

A lot of the time I don't skip the cutscenes or dialogue, yet I still have no idea what's going on. I do tend to fumble my way around to figuring it out eventually though.

[Enla]

Can we please /please/ get an expansion to the Hall of Novice that includes tutorials on the existence of cleaves for all roles? As well as make the entire experience mandatory before Sastasha? Now with the game booming in popularity I've had to raise so many damn people who refuse, positively REFUSE, not to stand up front with the tank. Then, when I do raise them on the good faith that they'll learn their lesson after they die to a spicy cleave they just run right back and do it all over again. It's gotten to the point that multiple times this month I've outright stopped prioritizing raises on certain people because I know they're just going to run back and die again anyways.

A key example of this point would be my recent experience in Suzaku NM. But Enla! I hear you say, that fight doesn't have a traditional cleave! No, but that didn't stop well over six people in my party last night from stacking up front with the tank in the second phase. Who then, hilariously, had to scramble to safety EACH TIME Phantom Flurry went out. Most of them made it. Two of them, including the off tank tank and a machinist, died every. single. TIME. No amount of me telling them not to stand there seemed to get through to them - and then at the end as I screamed in my head over my near empty MP pool they were all congratulating each other on a smooth run. None of them had the foggiest idea that standing up with the tank and dying for it did not constitute a 'smooth run'.

Like I get it, this game wants to be friendly to casuals and I don't necessarily think that is always a bad thing. But can we PLEASE give those casuals some basis of knowledge so they don't give the rest of their parties grey hairs?

[Ilenya]

I assume you mean unmarked cleaves, but I am about 99% sure the game tells you in the Hall of the Novice that you do better fighting from the back or rear.

[Morningstar1337]

Your nephew is not alone. I know so many players who just skip thru dialogue and cutscenes then complain that they have no idea what's going on.

I admit that while I didn't skip the scenes, a lot of the nuances went over my head (I still though Vaan was the protagonist for starters) and thus some details on the endgame flew over my head until much later.

[Cincierta]

To the party I had while I was running roulette on my alt GNB in Stone Vigil:

Healer, Sprint exists for a reason. Regens exist for a reason. Lucid Dreaming exists for a reason. Please use them, and don't complain about LoS when you're jogging all the way in the back while I'm running ahead as tank. There was no need for you to yell at me when the dps pulled more mobs to me and I died 5 times the entire dungeon. That was the dps' fault for pulling the extra packs.

SMN and BLM, if you wanted me to pull more mobs while one of you was undergeared, please say so beforehand before I run on ahead. There was absolutely no reason for you to pull the extra mobs in the side rooms and pull on ahead when I had parked myself with two packs. There was no reason for your silence when I asked both of you if you wanted me to pull more even though the ast healer couldn't handle it.

It is not my fault two of you ran in front of the first boss twice and died to Swinge.

I have cooldowns to help mitigate damage as tank. That being said, I can only mitigate so much between 12 mobs and Aurora doesn't come until 45. It's not my fault the game syncs you down. It's not my fault I took a lot of damage while trying to dodge aoes and trying to properly rotate my defensive cooldowns.

The three of you can F*ck. Right. Off.

Sincerely,
You PUG tank.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Healer, Sprint exists for a reason.

There are few things that irritate me more as a tank than a healer who refuses to use sprint when they clearly see myself and the rest of the party sprinting ahead. Worse when they have the audacity to complain I was out of range if we end up wiping on a pull because they were slow.

Like my dude. Sprint costs you nothing. Please use it, it's a single button, it is not that hard.

[Mixt]

On the other hand, Sprint only lasts so long and does have a cooldown, so if the healer uses it out of synch with the rest of the group for whatever reason and it is therefore not available when the rest of the party runs ahead then you have a problem.

One such example being where the Healer uses Sprint to help move out of a boss mechanic in time, so they can finish their cast and still be able to get out of the blast zone in time, then when the boss dies, the tank and the DPS immediately sprints ahead while the healers Sprint is like "23 seconds remaining on cooldown" and then the healer is unable to catch up and everyone gets their teeth kicked in.

Been there, had that happen a couple of times, the DPS were rushing ahead, so i also had to rush, and the healer got left in the dust due to their Sprint being down, oops.

Sprint lasts for 20 seconds out of combat, 10 seconds in combat, and has a 60 seconds CD, that means there is a 40 or 50 second period where you CAN NOT Sprint, depending on whether you are currently engaged in a fight or not.

And keeping track of which abilities another player does or does not currently have available and which are on recharge is not exactly easy, and i know all to well how infuriating it can be to be told to use something that is not up because you already used it and the CD is still ticking.

Now, if they never use the ability at all, then that is a different matter, and definitely an issue.

[Veis_Alveare]

sprint has a cd.

While it's true sprint might be on CD I can't think of a single instance where someone having the speed boost from sprint is going to take them SO FAR AWAY from the healer who might not have it (or use it) that that healer still won't be able to get to them in time to cast something.

Timing up your sprint casts with your tank as a healer is literally just making your own life easier but it isn't going to cost you the pull unless you're fumbling in a bunch of other ways. You might need to toss out a heal when you get there before you start spamming your AoE... that's all.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

While it's true sprint might be on CD I can't think of a single instance where someone having the speed boost from sprint is going to take them SO FAR AWAY from the healer who might not have it (or use it) that that healer still won't be able to get to them in time to cast something.

Timing up your sprint casts with your tank as a healer is literally just making your own life easier but it isn't going to cost you the pull unless you're fumbling in a bunch of other ways. You might need to toss out a heal when you get there before you start spamming your AoE... that's all.

To add to this, I don't see much point in popping sprint to escape an AoE in most dungeon content? It's pretty easy to gauge whether you can get one last cast off before safely making it out of danger.