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  1. #11
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    If the CDC is correct in that a vaccine will be less effective then a mask, then I don't see pandemic ever really going away, so they might as well turn the housing demolishing back on since this is the "new normal".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Are you curious about FFXIV's initial 2 month delay, and now 3 month delay, while Blizzard and WoW is only seeing a 1 month delay?
    Different people working on different things may decide differently on how much of a delay they need. Maybe WoW would benefit from a longer delay.

    Patch release dates:
    5.3 was originally slated for June 2nd 2020.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...v_patch_dates/

    It was officially released October 10th 2020

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...5c2da260eae21a

    Per the FFXIV team they stated "patch 5.3 will be delayed by more than a month at the very least"

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/420143

    So we're seeing a 2 month delay for 5.3.

    It was also stated:



    Yet 5.4 was originally slated for September 22nd 2020, and is currently with no release date, with an estimation of "December."

    This puts 5.4 at a now 3 month delay from its original release, which would mean, if you consider the original 2 month delay for 5.3, then the slow down from 2 months to now 3 months for 5.4, the XIV team is running closer to around 66%-75% production.
    5.0 - Late June (Early Access)
    5.1 - Late October
    5.2 - Late February

    5.3 - Early August (I don't know where you get October, that's 5.35)
    5.4 - Expected to be early December

    So, a two-month delay for 5.3, but no delay for 5.4 if they release in December.

    Also, where do you get September 22 date for 5.4?
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    Last edited by linayar; 11-09-2020 at 05:14 PM.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    No. It's not time.

    The reason for the timers isn't because social distancing might make logging in harder, if anything your general player had MORE time to play, not less. The reason for the timers being off is in case you or someone else contracts COVID, has to go into quarantine and potentially a lengthy hospital stay that this person doesn't then also come back from this disease with a deleted house. Even those who have not been effected by it NOW doesn't mean that a week from now they won't contract it (a player friend of mine just went to the hospital last week from contracting it, and now it's good things that for his hospital stay his house is safe)
    This could happen before COVID and will still happen after COVID. Same as any personal situation that prevents keeping a subscription going on. If we follow that logic demo timer should be removed forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Also, where do you get September 22 date for 5.4?
    When 5.4 would have been scheduled for if there was no delay at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    This could happen before COVID and will still happen after COVID. Same as any personal situation that prevents keeping a subscription going on. If we follow that logic demo timer should be removed forever.
    They've previously suspended demolition for natural disasters, this is no different. It's the scale of the issue, not the fact that "people get sick all the time anyway".
    In addition to those actually getting sick and being stuck in hospital for lengths of time, there's also the financial hit and the fact that many have lost their jobs, and thus their ability to support a continuing subscription.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    When 5.4 would have been scheduled for if there was no delay at all.
    If we go by the 5.0-5.2 releases, they're all about 4 months apart. So if 5.3 was supposed to be released on June 16 (about 4 months after 5.2's February 18 release date), then 5.4 would've been released on October 6 or 13 more likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    If we go by the 5.0-5.2 releases, they're all about 4 months apart. So if 5.3 was supposed to be released on June 16 (about 4 months after 5.2's February 18 release date), then 5.4 would've been released on October 6 or 13 more likely.
    It's typically a 16 week cycle, which is slightly less than 4 months, so the date will drift back (relative to 4 months) a little over the course of the expansion.
    3.4 was Sept 27th, and 4.4 was Sept 18th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    They've previously suspended demolition for natural disasters, this is no different. It's the scale of the issue, not the fact that "people get sick all the time anyway".
    In addition to those actually getting sick and being stuck in hospital for lengths of time, there's also the financial hit and the fact that many have lost their jobs, and thus their ability to support a continuing subscription.
    I going to disagree with you on this not being different. The first weave I agree, at this point? Not so much. COVID situation is going to stay with us for a long while, or even forever like other diseases.

    In any case, I never going to get why is more important when more players are potentially affected than when only a few are having a hard time. Bad things are bad things, if SE really cares at least they should revamp apartments.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 11-09-2020 at 07:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    If I were to go into hospital suddenly, a virtual house would be one of the last things on my mind...
    Get your priorities straight! Not sarcasm ;-}
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    It's typically a 16 week cycle, which is slightly less than 4 months, so the date will drift back (relative to 4 months) a little over the course of the expansion.
    3.4 was Sept 27th, and 4.4 was Sept 18th.
    A 16-week cycle would put 5.4 in October in the original plan. Your rule of thumb doesn't account for longer breaks before the expansion release, especially the one before 5.0.

    And just for "fun" since I'm still awake...

    Dates (formatted month/day/year) are based on patch note releases, which are usually a day before patch or early access releases, thus the 2.0 date used.

    2.0 (day before early access) - 8/23/13
    113 days
    2.1 - 12/14/13
    102 days
    2.2 - 3/26/14
    103 days
    2.3 - 7/7/14
    112 days
    2.4 - 10/27/14
    84 days
    2.5 - 1/19/15
    151 days
    3.0 - 6/19/15
    143 days
    3.1 - 11/9/15
    105 days
    3.2 - 2/22/16
    105 days
    3.3 - 6/6/16
    112 days
    3.4 - 9/26/16
    112 days
    3.5 - 1/16/17
    150 days
    4.0 - 6/15/17
    116 days
    4.1 - 10/9/17
    112 days
    4.2 - 1/29/18
    112 days
    4.3 - 5/21/18
    119 days
    4.4 - 9/17/18
    112 days
    4.5 - 1/7/19
    171 days
    5.0 - 6/27/19
    123 days
    5.1 - 10/28/19
    112 days
    5.2 - 2/17/20
    119 days (planned)
    5.3 (planned) - 6/15/20
    175 days (actual)
    5.3 (actual) - 8/10/20

    112 days after 8/10/20 - 11/30/20 (meaning a December 1 release)
    119 days after 8/10/20 - 12/7/20 (meaning a December 8 release)
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