SE How Hard? (About the World Merge and Character Transfers (02/09/2012))

[Arcell]

I love it when people demand things from SE, which is quite often. Yelling at SE to fix something doesn't make it happen any sooner, nor does it make it an actual issue. This style of server merge is likely the best solution for the largest number of people. If we just merged server 2 into server 1 then people on server 1 wouldn't have any choice in the matter. They would be forced to stay right where they are. Good for some, bad for others.

What about those people who already have vacation planned for the beginning of March? Or even those who have rl issues pop up. Either way, a currently active paying player may get screwed just because they're unable to log in during that little time window.

You're calling 2/3 of a month a small time window? I mean how much more time do they have to give you? Ask someone you trust to log in for you then or something, there are alternatives.

[Mychael]

I love it when people demand things from SE, which is quite often. Yelling at SE to fix something doesn't make it happen any sooner, nor does it make it an actual issue. This style of server merge is likely the best solution for the largest number of people. If we just merged server 2 into server 1 then people on server 1 wouldn't have any choice in the matter. They would be forced to stay right where they are. Good for some, bad for others.



You're calling 2/3 of a month a small time window? I mean how much more time do they have to give you? Ask someone you trust to log in for you then or something, there are alternatives.

You're calling 5 minutes a large window?

Because they give you from day one until the server is filled. If your server choice is popular, have fun with that.

No, I seriously doubt that anything will be filling up on day one. But if you get locked out, hah. F*ck you until server transfers come sometime after 2.0.

[Arcell]

You're calling 5 minutes a large window?

Because they give you from day one until the server is filled. If your server choice is popular, have fun with that.

No, I seriously doubt that anything will be filling up on day one. But if you get locked out, hah. F*ck you until server transfers come sometime after 2.0.

Well until we have the server names I can't see one server being that much more popular than any other, considering they're just numbered 1-10. Any number is just as good as another. I doubt we'll have servers filling up that quickly.

My only issue with this is not allowing people to select a server upon resubscribing. Scattering the currently inactive players to the wind doesn't seem like an optimal solution. However that's really my only complaint here.

[ssppiikkeeyy]

Well until we have the server names I can't see one server being that much more popular than any other, considering they're just numbered 1-10. Any number is just as good as another. I doubt we'll have servers filling up that quickly.

My only issue with this is not allowing people to select a server upon resubscribing. Scattering the currently inactive players to the wind doesn't seem like an optimal solution. However that's really my only complaint here.

if u read the other post people are already thinking of what the names r and since there guessing the names u pretty much can guess them servers will fill up fast. and i think what he meant was more to the point of what KaiKatzchen said where all ur firends could be in 1 server and they might all have to leave that server to pick another 1 just to uns all can play together and this could go on for day's just finding a server big enough for everyone on ur LS and friendslist to join.

[Skies]

My only issue with this is not allowing people to select a server upon resubscribing. Scattering the currently inactive players to the wind doesn't seem like an optimal solution. However that's really my only complaint here.

Actually I have a slight feeling that they have a technical issue here. I think that they're going to do a "brute force" transfer, that is, get their programming team to manually move characters from one database to another, rather than having an automated system. Likely XIV's server wasn't built to support server transfers, so they're having to jury-rig it. It's likely that if there were, from the start, a type of server transfer service they could have used that to leave the inactives now on a 'limbo' and force them to transfer later. As it is, they can't really leave inactives on the limbo, they gotta go SOMEWHERE, so sadly they need to go out randomly.

[SwordCoheir]

Well until we have the server names I can't see one server being that much more popular than any other, considering they're just numbered 1-10. Any number is just as good as another. I doubt we'll have servers filling up that quickly.

My only issue with this is not allowing people to select a server upon resubscribing. Scattering the currently inactive players to the wind doesn't seem like an optimal solution. However that's really my only complaint here.

Agreed, it doesn't help players prepare for the merge if World 7 becomes "Besaid" two weeks later. In fact it probably complicates things further by releasing names at a later date, when shells have already made plans on said world but it no longer exists.

And scattering inactive friends waiting it out till 2.0 upsets me to no end as well. I'll be content if they allow them the option to transfer to a world of their choosing without being active (at least that way we can still see our friends when they come back), but we would really need all of the information on the merge NOW so we can get into contact with them off-game and get them prepared for the merge as well.

In the end I am a bit disappointed that SE didn't take the same route as in FFXI and just merge the lowest/higher populated servers, they could still rename servers to whatever they wanted and give players the option to voluntarily move to another server to even out the populace more, but in the end a majority of inactive players would still be together on the same server and could get back into contact with each other when they came back, unless the shell up and moved altogether.

[ssppiikkeeyy]

You're calling 5 minutes a large window?

Because they give you from day one until the server is filled. If your server choice is popular, have fun with that.

No, I seriously doubt that anything will be filling up on day one. But if you get locked out, hah. F*ck you until server transfers come sometime after 2.0.

yea they should just make this easyer so what 1 server may not have to move... if my server has to move i'm all for it as long as everyone on my server friend's and linkshell stay together.

That's why I said it was just an example, I don't know the server populations, I was just putting two names I knew out of the air to show what I meant.

i no i am only guess about the server sizes lol

[KaiKatzchen]

yea they should just make this easyer so what 1 server may not have to move... if my server has to move i'm all for it as long as everyone on my server friend's and linkshell stay together.



i no i am only guess about the server sizes lol

Oh lol yeah I have no clue on server size.

[Kinseykinz]

You're calling 5 minutes a large window?

Because they give you from day one until the server is filled. If your server choice is popular, have fun with that.

No, I seriously doubt that anything will be filling up on day one. But if you get locked out, hah. F*ck you until server transfers come sometime after 2.0.

Honestly, don't we kinda want the 'OMG the server is FULL!! Problem?' Esp after watching a game we enjoy playing have a steady population decline month after month?

That being said: by the time server merge choices will need to be made, it sounds like the community will have it more or less sorted out. Also, the way I read the information it sounds like Step 1: Sign up for Server of choice. Once you do this you still have the chance to change server, but 'save' spot on server even if you can't log in the actual day of server merges. Step 2: Assuming you still like your server: Log in day of merge (or 1st day that works for you) and say 'Hello new world and old and new friends.' Now Step 2 if you Don't like your server is to pick a new, not filled one.

If you have the RL 'outta town issue,' have a RL friend, neighbor, family member, do the sign up for you (as you want it done). Also it sounds like this might be doable over the internet/forums/lodestone and NOT actually in game. If this is the case, as long as you can find internet access you should be okay.

[Mychael]

Honestly, don't we kinda want the 'OMG the server is FULL!! Problem?' Esp after watching a game we enjoy playing have a steady population decline month after month?

That being said: by the time server merge choices will need to be made, it sounds like the community will have it more or less sorted out. Also, they way I read the information it sounds like Step 1: Sign up for Server of choice....have chance to change server, but 'save' spot on server even if you can't log in the actual day of server merges. Step 2: Assuming you still like your server: Log in day of merge (or 1st day that works for you) and say 'Hello new world and old and new friends.'

If you have the RL 'outta town issue,' have a RL friend, neighbor, family member, do the sign up for you (as you want it done). Also it sounds like this might be doable over the internet/forums/lodestone and NOT actually in game. If this is the case, as long as you can find internet access you should be okay.

What I wanted was to keep my friends and increase server population.

The antiquated A->B method accomplished both of these things. For some reason, SE overcomplicated things. Admittedly, I was against having "destination worlds" because I did that in XI. Being on the non-destination world sucked. But there were many ways to accomplish all of these goals without splitting the community. If they wanted to let people transfer worlds at will, it would have been much easier on their end to make that an option--free or even paid--to do so. Forcing everyone to reselect means one of two things

1) We all succeed in making our friends move with us, and by the time your friend's friend's.....friend's friend gets the message the whole servers are moving anyway

or...

2) People are forced to choose between friends and/or shells.