Easiest Healer to play?

[glamazon]

Aspected Helios and aspected benefic stack do they not? Why is that? Could it be because they are supposed to be used together?

[YusiKha]

Aspected Helios and aspected benefic stack do they not? Why is that? Could it be because they are supposed to be used together?

Because the regen versions have different potencies??? The shields don't stack though, with the stronger one overwriting weaker ones.

Mate, you can't dig yourself out of a hole by lining the walls with steel. You'll never shake your reputation as the guy who cast 8 benefics over 1 helios like that.

[Veis_Alveare]

Aspected Helios and aspected benefic stack do they not? Why is that? Could it be because they are supposed to be used together?

If they were "supposed" to be used together wouldn't there be like... any scenario where that's an attractive option?

Having the Asp. Helios buff on a main tank will invariably help mitigate a bit more of the autos they take for a short while but what you're suggesting is akin to casting Asp. Helios specifically for that bit of tank healing as opposed to just using your proper single target version of the same skill.

It's even spiritually similar to dps who don't AoE, or who AoE on single targets - there is an appropriate number of targets for some abilities in this game. You'll benefit from learning what those are.

[glamazon]

Don’t need to shake anything. I knew what I was doing and had fun doing it. No one died. We won the fight. I also did damage. Check check check. And now I completely understand the people who say you don’t pay my sub.

[glamazon]

Yeah and that’s different for different players. Some always aoe with more than one some don’t. Some do it at three or four. They will decide what’s optimal for them.

[oblivion238]

Yeah and that’s different for different players. Some always aoe with more than one some don’t. Some do it at three or four. They will decide what’s optimal for them.

There's no such thing as 'optimal for them'. There is only objectively correct and objectively incorrect. Using a single target heal for aoe healing might still work but you should realize that it is the objectively worse choice.

[Veis_Alveare]

Yeah and that’s different for different players. Some always aoe with more than one some don’t. Some do it at three or four. They will decide what’s optimal for them.

Some jobs have different breakpoints for their general AoE rotation or for using AoE moves over single target ones (DNC uses their AoE procs even on single target and swaps at 2, SCH and AST do more with their AoE at 2 enemies but WHM will still use Glare over Holy until 3, etc.) but there is no such thing as "deciding what is optimal for them" rather just... playing correctly or not.

If you want to actively choose to play incorrectly then just be ready for the consequences - more deaths and wipes, the potential to be kicked for your mistakes and (as we've seen here) people calling you out on your poor choices.

[Liam_Harper]

Don’t need to shake anything. I knew what I was doing and had fun doing it. No one died. We won the fight. I also did damage. Check check check. And now I completely understand the people who say you don’t pay my sub.

Look, jokes aside, people are mainly just trying to help you here.

Let's say you burn out of resources and pop Neutral Sect. You use 1 AspHelios.
1. The entire party is immediately healed and shielded. This is far safer than AspBenefic x8.
2. If the party takes more damage, you can use another AspHelios. They all immediately get another shield/regen/heal. Again far safer.
3. If you were AspBenfic spamming on 8 people, player 8 wouldn't receive any attention until after about 17 sec. They're in danger.
4. In the above scenario you cast 6 Malefic.

So overall you healed more, you kept the party far safer and you dealt 1500 potency of damage (and even more if it was aoe). You're the sort of AST the party is glad to have. Wouldn't that be more fun?

[glamazon]

Finally someone reasonable. I can agree with this. But when point two happens and neutral sext is still up. Then I am going to sue asp benefic.

I think you all in your perfect savage high end raids where no one is stepping in anything bad and everyone has meteorites the fight have forgotten that this isn’t the case with the majority of players.
People step in bad. People have poor connections. There is lag. For me healing comes before anything else
This mindset of I can let them be one third health doesn’t work because this is not a static group. I don’t know these players and they don’t know me.

It’s great that your statics run like well oiled machines and you can do the minimum when it comes to healing. I have not encountered runs like that.

I will agree that some of those befits went unused and I probably didn’t need to cast one on everyone. However I have to maintain an element of fun for me and that is healing shielding buffing etc. yes I dps but I don’t want to button mash malefic. That’s not fun. Thank god for cards. But yes maybe I can put asp b on the tank me and main damage dealer and not everyone.

[Seraphor]

People step in bad. People have poor connections. There is lag. For me healing comes before anything else
This mindset of I can let them be one third health doesn’t work because this is not a static group. I don’t know these players and they don’t know me.

Then why would you heal inefficiently?

While you're casting Benefic on players 1 and 2, player 3 is getting killed.
If everyone is taking damage, Helios and heal everyone at once. This is simple stuff.