A little Ninja suggestion

[Seraphor]

Don't place the Doton until the tank has finished pulling.

Any other issues are due to bad tanks.

[Masked-dingus]

Don't place the Doton until the tank has finished pulling.

Any other issues are due to bad tanks.

Don't worry, i'm always waiting for the tank to finish pulling, making sure i have him like in the middle of my aoe, it's just that some ( probably new ones ) will run away from it, or sometimes Tank will start running halfway throught the pack of mobs just to be able to pull the boss as fast as possible

I don't have issues with the spell itself, i just made a suggestion of a little change that could make it less '' party dependant ''

[Equitable_Remedy]

Don't place the Doton until the tank has finished pulling.

Any other issues are due to bad tanks.

You'd think. And yet easily half of my dotons get jebaited out even after I waiting for the tanks to come to a full stop—they start moving as soon as they see me hitting the mudras. (I suspect that they memorize the mudra combination just so they know when to hit sprint.)

#TankConspiracy #Dotongate

[ADVSS]

You'd think. And yet easily half of my dotons get jebaited out even after I waiting for the tanks to come to a full stop—they start moving as soon as they see me hitting the mudras. (I suspect that they memorize the mudra combination just so they know when to hit sprint.)

#TankConspiracy #Dotongate

Another thing to consider, is that the tank may have all effects turned off, though i usually keep party effects on limited because of things like floor aoes. Said tanks just might not even see them on the ground, party effects like holy spam etc, can get pretty ridiculous when you're trying to dodge enemy cones and circles on the floor.

[Seraphor]

Another thing to consider, is that the tank may have all effects turned off, though i usually keep party effects on limited because of things like floor aoes. Said tanks just might not even see them on the ground, party effects like holy spam etc, can get pretty ridiculous when you're trying to dodge enemy cones and circles on the floor.

I have all effects turned off for other players. It doesn't eliminate ground effects.
Doton, Salted Earth, SMN's ground DoTs whatever they're called, Asylum, Sacred Soil, Earthly Star and Collective Unconscious are all still visible.