Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Yugiri_Museigen]

People rely on raise way too much instead of working to improve.

either i dont get what u mean or my point was only in my head upsetting.

I mean he kinda and his GF fully played every mechanic wrong and he was Raising her all day long and tryed to blame it on me with commends like Quote:"Glare wont heal the Party..." and Quote:"i hate it if healer tryes to DPS, USE UR F*****G HEALS...". Well i never learned to heal onehits :/.

[Packetdancer]

either i dont get what u mean or my point was only in my head upsetting.

I think the point was "[that poster feels] those players didn't bother to do mechanics because they figured the healer (or a Rez Mage) could just raise them right back into combat; if we got rid of in-combat raise, people would either have to learn the mechanics or sit on the floor until the fight finished, which might encourage everyone to do mechanics properly."

[Kleeya]

I think the point was "[that poster feels] those players didn't bother to do mechanics because they figured the healer (or a Rez Mage) could just raise them right back into combat; if we got rid of in-combat raise, people would either have to learn the mechanics or sit on the floor until the fight finished, which might encourage everyone to do mechanics properly."

More like might encourage lazy players to get killed on purpose in the very beginning of a fight, say "oops sorry" in chat, and then start eating while watching netflix on their second screen, waiting for all the remaining players to do all the work for them XD

[Anienai]

More like might encourage lazy players to get killed on purpose in the very beginning of a fight, say "oops sorry" in chat, and then start eating while watching netflix on their second screen, waiting for all the remaining players to do all the work for them XD

I resemble that remark!!!

[Vyrerus]

Having raise in battle is for the best. It's already limited by MP and job selection. Standard comps will have at least two, but after a few raises each, MP goes to shambles, not too mention the reality of passing checks.

There have been some pretty zaney things, like I know this one guy who had a Contruct 7 fight in Ridorana where he performed like 58 raises. Since situations like that can occur, it follows that it would play out exactly like people say it will. Remove battle raise, and anyone who thinks they can get away with it, will just die and afk.

[Packetdancer]

There have been some pretty zaney things, like I know this one guy who had a Contruct 7 fight in Ridorana where he performed like 58 raises.

Sweet flying hamsters... 58?!

My personal record for raises in an instance was as a WHM in Dun Scaith a few months back where over the course of the run (involving a couple of wipes) I did 61 raises. I cannot imagine doing 58 in a single fight.

[Ilenya]

Sweet flying hamsters... 58?!

My personal record for raises in an instance was as a WHM in Dun Scaith a few months back where over the course of the run (involving a couple of wipes) I did 61 raises. I cannot imagine doing 58 in a single fight.

Construct 7 is a special fight that's actually *really* hard to wipe in with a competent Tank/Healer. Back when it was current having runs hinge on safely ressing while keeping the tank alive were pretty common.

[Darkmoonrise]

Augh, please no. As [...] time" or whatever.

Everything you say is true, but doesn't convince me, because your sayings are personal preference not arguments. Which is all fine, by the way, point of views exist and it’s good

Let me expose you my point of view (no argument either, just my humble point of view). Actually, you said it yourself; wipes are instructional. You fail, you learn, you redo correctly. And next time you’re doing the content, you’re more efficient. And tht is good.

From a player point, failing mechanism is a pain, yes. But failing mechanism means, you’re either new and motivated and this pain will go away quickly because you’re learning the fight. Or you’re new and don’t want to improve and the pain stays. But hey! you don’t put the effort in, why should you be rewarded?

From a group point of view, yes this will render PUG content more painful and encourage statics. Which is fair too. You’re in an mmo, not a single player game, social is a big part of it. If you want to go “I don’t care, people will carry me through this”, there is a lot of single player game out there for your selfish ... person

For the "want to go away quickly with content", see point above, go find a static or a guild. And for the « people blaming healers because they suck” aka “it’s healer’s fault”, well this is already a problem now, so nothing new. Just let them soak in their illusion of greatness. I like to emote pet them while they are eating dirt.

An alternative could be : like unsync mode, there is a "with raise mode", to train fights. But no reward, no loot, no xp, no whatever. If you want the reward, it's normal mode without battle raise. Another possibility will be : you died once during the fight, no reward for you.

Off topic : aaaah I miss elemental build from TSW. I had a hammer-element build we called “hammer time”, in which I could land 4 thor’s hammer in a row with 1 crit-pen and 1 crit guarantied. It took 5 builders to setup. We used to go in dungeons with 5 people equipped with that build. Was really fun to see boss melts under 20 thor’s hammers

[Gameovers]

I got a fanta and I don't know what to turn into... I'm fighting between a miqo'te, Viera or staying Au ra. Also playing ninja is super fun coming from whm and it's even more fun when I'm paired with a Sam or monk. Feels like we're family being all Japanese based jobs.

[HeulGDarian]

I got a fanta and I don't know what to turn into... I'm fighting between a miqo'te, Viera or staying Au ra. Also playing ninja is super fun coming from whm and it's even more fun when I'm paired with a Sam or monk. Feels like we're family being all Japanese based jobs.

for a sec i thought you meant you got a carbonated orange juice lol