Quote Originally Posted by Darsien View Post
Kinda funny. The real toxicity is trying to pin everything from valid criticism and gameplay suggestions to attitudes and approaches on "WoW refugees." As if playing a game somehow taints someone's soul. As if you can't be a FFXIV player if you've played another game. Instead, being "x player that plays FFXIV." That sort of generalization breeds nothing but negativity and contempt, which is clearly seen in this thread.

Do suppose it'd be hard for some of the people here to accept that they have their own brand of toxicity that they're peddling though. Asking someone to not afk for half an instance is one thing, but asking someone to acknowledge their unhealthy venting of personal bias to cover up the negativity that exists in FFXIV? Now that's a doozy. As I recall, there are enough instances of truly toxic behavior, such as doxing and death threats, that I need more than 2 hands to count them. What of those? Especially the ones before the supposed influx of WoW players?

Wonder what would happen if the convenient scapegoat of WoW was removed? Wonder who would be to blame. Guess we'll see, because a new expansion should draw those "refugees" away, right?

Looking forward to the future toxicity people spread in this thread, and in game, while trying to claim "it's not us, it's them!" while in this pose:

Personally, you can earn great experience from coming from other MMO's especially with tropes from a similar role system such as WOW.
The only issue I have is when its like "we need a druid/shaman/warlock/necromancer/deathknight in this game, because WOW does"
At that point, I go "No, this is a Final Fantasy, they don't exist"