Stop dumbing down FF14

[Vyrerus]

I recognize this comment is almost certainly hyperbole at best, and possibly outright trolling. But you know what? In all seriousness, I'd actually prefer that to the current behavior where existing skills are removed and rotations gutted to make room for new ones in a given expansion.

Yes, I recognize that if no skills ever went away or were collapsed down, hotbars would be unmanageable. But I think jobs suffer greatly at lower levels as a result of skill condensation; if you were to try to clear the Coils of Bahamut synced down fully now on scholar (i.e., synced both on level and synced to minimum ilevel), I suspect it would be a great deal harder than when it was current, if only because scholar has fewer things they can do at level 50 now.

Sure, I don't entirely like the idea of making one button that cycles through Keen Edge, Brutal Shell, and Solid Barrel on GNB, or that toggles between Demon Slice and Demon Slaughter for the AoE rotation. I.e., instead of 1, 2, 3 for single target or whatever you just press 1, 1, 1. Anything else aside, that's just not as satisfying a rotation; I mean, the reason GNB has become my favorite tank to play lately (sorry, DRK, you'll always be my first tanking love) is that Gnashing Fang -> weave Continuation -> Savage Claw -> weave Continuation -> Wicked Talon -> weave Continuation just feels good as an action flow.

But if it's a choice between collapsing existing rotations down to one button so they cycle through the steps as you unlock them, versus stripping skills out entirely to make room for new ones? Then yeah, I think I might actually prefer condensing some of the core rotations down to one button there.

Even if you silenced echo and synced down, Binding Coil would be hella easy these days due to the increased potencies across all jobs an the fact that every tank has mitigation out the booty hole. Granted, level 50 rotations are only slightly more boring than they were back then, and I don't like the skill pruning either, but old content only gets easier.

The one exception to this was the first tank nerf in HW. Tanks lost 218 ATP and gained a ton of HP they didn't need. Made groups still working on the tight Gordias DPS checks unable to clear suddenly. Good times.

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Even if you silenced echo and synced down, Binding Coil would be hella easy these days due to the increased potencies across all jobs an the fact that every tank has mitigation out the booty hole. Granted, level 50 rotations are only slightly more boring than they were back then, and I don't like the skill pruning either, but old content only gets easier.

The one exception to this was the first tank nerf in HW. Tanks lost 218 ATP and gained a ton of HP they didn't need. Made groups still working on the tight Gordias DPS checks unable to clear suddenly. Good times.

man i remember those days, i used to go on tirades about no longer being able to str tank. But the hp jump was kind of funny

I recognize this comment is almost certainly hyperbole at best, and possibly outright trolling. But you know what? In all seriousness, I'd actually prefer that to the current behavior where existing skills are removed and rotations gutted to make room for new ones in a given expansion.

The funny thing is that at one time i actually wanted this to happen, but after they pruned down several jobs(mainly the tanks)I feel like it would make the jobs even less insteresting to play than they already are. Might not be so bad for some DPS, though SMN maybe DRG. if its optional i like what they did for RDM by just combining skills like verthunder/aero to just become verflare/holy when the combo req is met.

[Vyrerus]

man i remember those days, i used to go on tirades about no longer being able to str tank. But the hp jump was kind of funny


The funny thing is that at one time i actually wanted this to happen, but after they pruned down several jobs(mainly the tanks)I feel like it would make the jobs even less insteresting to play than they already are. Might not be so bad for some DPS, though SMN maybe DRG. if its optional i like what they did for RDM by just combining skills like verthunder/aero to just become verflare/holy when the combo req is met.

That's what I want, more skills that morph. They've shown they can implement it with stances, level, and combo reqs now, so it's totally doable!

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That's what I want, more skills that morph. They've shown they can implement it with stances, level, and combo reqs now, so it's totally doable!

yeah i do like that just as long as they dont go pverboard with it. then it would be nice to a degree.