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    I did not know that people are actually streaming the PvP from FFXIV. Do they have an audience? I cant imagine that to be more than 20.

    From what i have, sadly, experienced is that once nice people became.... not so nice anymore after achieving, or rather, grinding, certain Ranks. People i knew from the earlierst seasons cant be bothered to say hi anymore or anything really.
    People often Claim that the Community in FFXIV is so nice and all, the reality is that they just dont express their "true Feelings" openly in Game since SE is quick to punish. Dont you dare being on one of the bigger Discords.... there, they show their True colors
    I guess the same is correct for Streamers. They expose themselves in a way by streaming and try to fortify their position by acting like a Rank 1 WoW Gladiator Championship Winner.

    That said, no. I do not think Streaming is helping in any way. Just as all those seemingly nice and Helpful discords that try to get you in so their owners can tell everyone what a big community they have. Many people claim to be wanting to help new players, in truth they just want more people they can bash behind their backs. Now i know that all sounds very Fatalistic and negative, BUT there are actual nice people. Usually those who keep more to themselves, those who do not boast about their Ranks and achievements, those are the nice ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    I did not know that people are actually streaming the PvP from FFXIV. Do they have an audience? I cant imagine that to be more than 20.
    In EU light DC there was a tournament that was hosted which had around 150+ viewers and peaked to nearly 200 iirc which, even I was surprised.
    Regular streams seem avg around 20 as you said while Brian's stream hits for 60 since he covers all dcs and runs other pvp content.

    I personally think it's a mixed bag because there is players out there who maintain a positive attitude and help others but at the same time you have other players who are more realists in the moment and get frustrated and let it out which isn't exactly a bad thing unless its witch-hunt territory. PvP inherently gets heated sometimes because of its competitive nature and nobody likes to lose at the end of the day. (Especially in this mode where you can lose because of someone else who is new or simply trolls which is an issue in itself.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    I did not know that people are actually streaming the PvP from FFXIV. Do they have an audience? I cant imagine that to be more than 20.

    From what i have, sadly, experienced is that once nice people became.... not so nice anymore after achieving, or rather, grinding, certain Ranks. People i knew from the earlierst seasons cant be bothered to say hi anymore or anything really.
    People often Claim that the Community in FFXIV is so nice and all, the reality is that they just dont express their "true Feelings" openly in Game since SE is quick to punish. Dont you dare being on one of the bigger Discords.... there, they show their True colors
    I guess the same is correct for Streamers. They expose themselves in a way by streaming and try to fortify their position by acting like a Rank 1 WoW Gladiator Championship Winner.

    That said, no. I do not think Streaming is helping in any way. Just as all those seemingly nice and Helpful discords that try to get you in so their owners can tell everyone what a big community they have. Many people claim to be wanting to help new players, in truth they just want more people they can bash behind their backs. Now i know that all sounds very Fatalistic and negative, BUT there are actual nice people. Usually those who keep more to themselves, those who do not boast about their Ranks and achievements, those are the nice ones.
    1) What? I'm literally a no-name and I still will get 20+ when queues are active, bigger streamers like Brian and Dan get 50+ easily. Any tournament stream hosted by the community is 100+. Aside from like big streamers and e-girls, it's not like the PvE community has a gigantic audience either. It's just there's more of them.
    2) To be fair, some of the top players are ex WoW rank ones, and several have lan experience in multiple games lol.
    3) God forbid someone tells you what you do wrong in a game and how to fix it. Ironically this is one of the few games I've played where people are extremely quick to fix your mistake, you might not like the methods they use, but they care, why wouldn't they - it's a solo queue game with a small population.

    In regards to people's attitudes when they stream. Yeah a lot of them are vets that are half decent at the game, of course they're going to tilt if people play badly or chuck their matches doing something stupid when they know better. What do you expect, it's a competition.
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