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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    1) they grandfathered in peoples extras. This itself would have alleviated alot of housing cry. Not enough but would have given more people a chance.
    On some servers a very noticeable amount of plots would become unclaimed if grandfathering was removed, but on others it would be only a handful of scattered plots. Just as you said it wouldn't be enough to actually fix the availability issue as a whole, but it would make the situation a bit better.

    I do agree grandfathering should be removed, but only when all characters on the same server can access the same private home and when players can invite their alts to fcs without needing help from a third party. I don't like the idea of entirely locking characters out of content they used to have access to. And of course grandfathered players should be able to choose what houses they keep and get refunded the cost of the rest.

    However I would far prefer a solution that means no one loses anything but that is only possible with instanced housing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    2) even with new rules in place people still sell of plots or even plots attached to free companies. That is another bag of worms. That is easily fixable by making it so a person has to be a member for 6 months to be able to take ownership. This would greatly reduce seeing people selling larges attached to a fc for 300mil. You know the thing they were trying to combat.
    I think six months is too much. It would very much hurt fcs that are around six months old or less who happen to have the misfortune of having a fc leader who cannot log in or must step down.

    Six months is a pretty big timeframe and unexpected things can happen to people that would make them unable to log in. It sucks if your fc master can't log in and it would suck more if the fc master can't pass on leadership even if they want to. However I think two months would be reasonable. Unexpected things can still happen in that time frame but in general people have an idea of what they're doing for the next two months. Six months? Far more difficult to predict, especially in the interesting time we're living in right now.

    It also could be quite difficult to sell a plot with a timeframe longer than a month to wait for fc ownership to be passed on. People are of course be concerned about getting scammed when they buy from another player, and it would be much more difficult to report the scam if the process of the transaction began several weeks before. I don't know if SE's logs even go back that far to be able to check what conversation took place. It's possible that they don't. Having to wait so long to be able to complete the purchase of a house from a player would definitely be a deterrent to some degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    3) they should have suspended relocation when the new wards came out but not told anyone they were so people didnt have time to create a new service account to bypass that restriction. This would have given people this housing was meant for a fighting chance to get a house. Then they could have announced relocation would be open 7 days after.
    I don't agree with suspending relocation. A huge majority have the plot they have because it is what they could get, not what they chose. Especially in the case of fcs having a cottage can feel very limited. New wards are often the only place players can realistically relocate to what they consider a better location, unless their server has a very small population.

    However what SE can do is dramatically increase the cd on relocation. I read on Reddit that the cd is a mere five minutes which is ridiculously short. A handful of players with too much gil trolled others by relocating several times the day the new wards launched. The cd should be at least several hours if not more. They could even pair the cd with purchase, and by that I mean when you purchase a house you cannot relocate for X amount of hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    4) housing would probably be better off with fc's in housing wards since players barely use them outside of rp places and personal in instanced which could be included in our sub since we house owners (when the demo timer is on) need to have a active sub anyways and go in once every 45 days to even keep our personal house.
    Honestly I'd prefer if the entire system was instanced. My fc had some very near misses with drama due to unsavoury people hanging around the fc house, one of which was a person who bullied one of our members. Thankfully nothing terrible happened but that doesn't mean nothing ever will. If we had instanced housing these incidents wouldn't be possible.

    That said I wouldn't be opposed to a system in which wards were just for fcs and private homes were instanced, provided that private homes continue to have access to outdoor decoration and gardening. I don't want to lose my lovely garden. Not having a garden was one of the main reasons why I wasn't happy in an apartment. If we had a system like this, I do agree it would be far better than what we have now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    They need to fix this right but I know they wont. It will all fall on deaf ears which is sad. The outcry will continue and they will scratch their heads as to why
    Well if nothing else we know that SE had planned to add far more wards than the chunk we just got. Covid prevented them from adding more servers for housing so instead they optimised the current servers to fit more wards. So we still got more wards, but less than was intended. How much less exactly we don't know. I guess we won't until 6.0 considering the delays in content releases and having to scrap this year's Halloween in an attempt to keep up. Maybe we'll see them in late 5.4.

    I had a tiny hope for Ishgard but from what we can see of the housing now, it looks like a ward layout. I was hoping the WoL would get an instanced house as a reward for helping the city to rebuild but that hope has since shrunk very significantly.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 10-27-2020 at 02:23 PM.