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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    You know what a log is because you've gone through the trouble of hiding them. Don't play dumb, it's not a good look.

    If you're tanking and you think AST and SCH will have an easier time healing you to full I'd call that a lack of understanding of healer kits on your part. As a WHM it's real easy to pop plenary+Cure3 there for tanks and healers, similar to orb phase back on chaos. I've farmed 99 totems for my mount then helped others and I don't recall any time beyond like the first week or so that I've had to use more than my Star there with a WHM. It's actually spicier with SCH as an AST since they'll indom but indom+star won't mean full HP. I usually suck it up then and will Horoscope+Aspected Helios as well. Maybe a CO to be safe.

    Point is I've done this fight plenty. It doesn't take very much healing, just like the nier raid your friend was talking about. It's easy content. There's no way you're dying left and right to lack of heals unless there's something else going on here.
    My lass, or lad, no matter, I have literally nothing to hide. I've been playing for almost 3 years now and I kid you not, I have no idea what are you talking about. May be cuz I preffer to stick to myself and my friends and not interact with community unless absolutely nessecary.

    See, there's the case. I usually DO have a better time w/o WHM in a party. Like I said, cuz most I've met preffer to glare, not to utilize their kit at all. PFs and randoms do be like that. I don't know how many times I should repeat it. It was, what, 5 times already?
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    My lass, or lad, no matter, I have literally nothing to hide. I've been playing for almost 3 years now and I kid you not, I have no idea what are you talking about. May be cuz I preffer to stick to myself and my friends and not interact with community unless absolutely nessecary.

    See, there's the case. I usually DO have a better time w/o WHM in a party. Like I said, cuz most I've met preffer to glare, not to utilize their kit at all. PFs and randoms do be like that. I don't know how many times I should repeat it. It was, what, 5 times already?
    Based on everything you and your friend have said here, I suspect the reason you don't see WHMs utilizing their healing kit is because you're quick to heal. If you're keeping people topped off when it isn't necessary, you can bet most WHMs are going to think "oh, one of those people" and not bother healing at all, because you've obviously got that covered.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Based on everything you and your friend have said here, I suspect the reason you don't see WHMs utilizing their healing kit is because you're quick to heal. If you're keeping people topped off when it isn't necessary, you can bet most WHMs are going to think "oh, one of those people" and not bother healing at all, because you've obviously got that covered.
    Yeeeeah, tanks are knowlegable for topping everyone in 2 seconds, how did I forgot.
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    Yeeeeah, tanks are knowlegable for topping everyone in 2 seconds, how did I forgot.
    You have your healers leveled to 80. Don't act like you haven't played them.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    You have your healers leveled to 80. Don't act like you haven't played them.
    In content that requares 2 healers? No, I haven't. Only if my buddy watching my back, never with randoms. Way too laggy for me to heal othewise.
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

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    Had a whm yesterday in Bozja,, literally only used glare and watched all 5 dps die lol. Not even a raise after xD. Party disbanded after the CE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    In content that requares 2 healers? No, I haven't. Only if my buddy watching my back, never with randoms. Way too laggy for me to heal othewise.
    And you've already mentioned using Clemency, which I honestly suspect you're far too quick on the draw for. Because Clemency spamming PLDs are basically what healers complain about. I would not be surprised at all if you're one.

    Also, pretty much nobody in this thread has defended themselves except your buddy and you. They're just trying to get you to stop spreading misinformation and discouraging proper good play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    And you've already mentioned using Clemency, which I honestly suspect you're far too quick on the draw for. Because Clemency spamming PLDs are basically what healers complain about. I would not be surprised at all if you're one.

    Also, pretty much nobody in this thread has defended themselves except your buddy and you. They're just trying to get you to stop spreading misinformation and discouraging proper good play.
    I'm gonna just "stare in camera" at this one.

    — I've met some WHMs who don't heal at all.
    — But they can use this and that and be done with it.
    — Yeah, I know they can, but they didn't.

    How does noone sees this whole topic looks like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    I'm gonna just "stare in camera" at this one.

    — I've met some WHMs who don't heal at all.
    — But they can use this and that and be done with it.
    — Yeah, I know they can, but they didn't.

    How does noone sees this whole topic looks like that.
    And I've met Ice Mages. I've met ASTs and SCHs, and even, yes, WHMs who only healed and didn't dps at all. What's your point?

    Meeting bad players is going to happen. That's the nature of PUGs.

    The problem here is that you are taking a few cases and taking some clearly extreme liberties with painting a bad picture. You met someone who didn't use their kit? Nobody is going to call you a liar for that. Claiming 80% of WHMs -- or even just 80% of WHMs you have personally encountered -- do it, though, is absurd.

    And then instead of making the thread about "healers (or even WHMs if you want to talk about your single Puppet's Bunker or Hades run) who don't heal at all," the thread was made as if healers spamming their dps spell is a bad thing.

    These are the king of things that lead people to believe you probably aren't very good players, or at least don't have a good understanding of how healers are best played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    I'm gonna just "stare in camera" at this one.

    — I've met some WHMs who don't heal at all.
    — But they can use this and that and be done with it.
    — Yeah, I know they can, but they didn't.

    How does noone sees this whole topic looks like that.
    this is what happens when you make an utter pointless thread just to vent, people come and try hard to find a point. Whether your friend meant it or not this is a troll thread, you went i denounce (to put it kindly thanks ToS) that group in particular. what did you expect it would happen?
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