Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
I'll bite.

I'm against grandfathering because there are a very small amount of limited plots in the game. If plots were unlimited or there were so many that every server constantly had open plots, then I really wouldn't care much about grandfathered players at all. Just like acquisition and sales, the issue with grandfathering can be traced back to a severe shortage of houses....and anyway grandfathering wouldn't have been necessary if the housing system was even good in the first place.

Grandfathered players make a bad situation worse but I recognise that they are absolutely not the root of the issue. Even if grandfathering is removed tomorrow there would still be a large number of homeless players. There would be less, noticeably less on some few servers...but not enough to consider the issue of availability fixed.

Hell if grandfathering and the placard timer gets taken away tomorrow along with the return of demolition there would still be an incredibly large amount of homeless players. None of these tweaks are fixes and tweaking the tweaks doesn't help either.

But as long as there is this horrendous shortage of houses then I will continue to advocate for more even distribution of them. If we ever get to the point that there are always plots available to buy everywhere, then I'll hang my coat and hat on this issue. I just want more people to enjoy housing. That's all.

Also I love dogs. I would never shoot a dog.
I think the timer wouldn't be so bad if it was just 1-4 hours. A 24 hour span is just horrible, not that I think housing resale is a significant issue in the first place: people were selling at near to placard price before the timer was implemented (with some notable exceptions due to high profile plots such as 11/41 LB, 5/35 Mists etc). In other words, most housing resale was not done for profit but rather to recoup the cost of ones house in the first place without having to wait for the 45day autodemo timer refund.

And in regards to grandfathered houses: I think that the 5-10 designers across all the DCs that own several plots still make up for less of a problem than the sheer volume of people that have houses and leave them empty altogether. I ran around the wards on Mateus recently for shits and the volume of plots that I see where it's just people throwing whatever furniture they have into their house (regardless of size) is huge. I don't mean poorly decorated houses, I mean houses that are deliberately used as storage or not decorated at all. That chaps my cheeks way more than anything else.