Toxic WHM Glare spammers

[Hatfright]

I have a prejudice against WHMs now almost as big as some people have against mentors.

And again. WHY i need to heal, if in raid another healer with some problem ? If he want heal ALL, so why i need to heal? For overhealing? No, i helping another 6 party member, not 1.
Btw, why i need go as DPS, if i go full damage on healers AND heal everything properly? Not a single wipe in many many monts. So, maybe problems not in "omg toxic whm glarespammers"

The thing is, you don't know if other healer wants to soloheal or if they just don't trust you to do your job. People not putting a slightest effort in assuring others they don't need to work they axes off for the group not to die is one of the reasons for this. The amount of "oh god, it's another one of these days of me solohealing, isn't it?" and "great, I'm gonna live on 5% all the time, ain't I?" is high. I saw enough entitled so called "healers" leaving tanks to die and then complaining about them not popping DCDs, despite tanks performing perfectly, I just don't trust White Mages I don't personally know anymore. I stopped allowing WHMs joining my PF groups cuz of all the Glaremages spamming 1 button with Assize on some special completely random occasion when other healers forced to use everything in their kit to prevent people from wipes on healchecks. Yes, that bad.

[Ashpd]

I have a prejudice against WHMs now almost as big as some people have against mentors.

The thing is, you don't know if other healer wants to soloheal or if they just don't trust you to do your job. People not putting a slightest effort in assuring others they don't need to work they axes off for the group not to die is one of the reasons for this. The amount of "oh god, it's another one of these days of me solohealing, isn't it?" and "great, I'm gonna live on 5% all the time, ain't I?" is high. I saw enough entitled so called "healers" leaving tanks to die and then complaining about them not popping DCDs, despite tanks performing perfectly, I just don't trust White Mages I don't personally know anymore. I stopped allowing WHMs joining my PF groups cuz of all the Glaremages spamming 1 button with Assize on some special completely random occasion when other healers forced to use everything in their kit to prevent people from wipes on healchecks. Yes, that bad.

Oh, look, let's not include great heal+damage job in party because healer don't play as you want that. Listen, if people not heal you to 100% - its not need it right now. If person dies to avoidable aoe - its their fault, not healer. If person not want solohealing - he can say it. Right now, in THAT GAME (i think we play different games, dunno) if you not at last savage floor/ultimate, you almost don't need to heal with any GCD outside lilies. Some Affiatus Rapture + Tetra + Spam Assize is enought for heal almost every fight. So why need some other with that toolkit + co-healer?

If my co-healer does nothing, then I will have to heal because I have eyes and brains. Just like in the cases of tank wars, I just turn off the stance so that some fool does not turn the boss, pouring damage on the group. It’s probably very good to parasitize on people like me and then say that we are whining.

And as I say before - if your co-healer start healing unoptimal from start - why need to overheal? Tell me exactly that, not try to avoid that question.

[ADVSS]

Oh, look, let's not include great heal+damage job in party because healer don't play as you want that. Listen, if people not heal you to 100% - its not need it right now. If person dies to avoidable aoe - its their fault, not healer. If person not want solohealing - he can say it. Right now, in THAT GAME (i think we play different games, dunno) if you not at last savage floor/ultimate, you almost don't need to heal with any GCD outside lilies. Some Affiatus Rapture + Tetra + Spam Assize is enought for heal almost every fight. So why need some other with that toolkit + co-healer?



And as I say before - if your co-healer start healing unoptimal from start - why need to overheal? Tell me exactly that, not try to avoid that question.

Explain how the average DF can fail outside of these instances. I'll tell you, healers need even less responsibility. RDM was a godsend and more DPS need a res like ability if they want. A single, or several tanks DEFINITELY need a res ability. And more self sustainability, in case, you know they arent turning AOEs onto the party and risking them. Your healing output should be limitied, and all DPS should have an ability to self sustain as well for these moments theyre locked at 1 hp as you said, for raiding purposes or such. Maybe, perhaps its about time that you guys can be a boon. but not so much the end all be all of every raid/extreme trial/alliance/ or instance to clearing. Its rather sick that if both healers die by the 1 hp rule, and walking into aoes, that the entire run is a failure, because only 2/10 dps can raise, and no tanks have that ability currently. You make an incredibly good case, as to why balance and raid utility shouldnt be limited by dps alone, but should absolutely be part of the conversation.

[RajNish]

And as I say before - if your co-healer start healing unoptimal from start - why need to overheal? Tell me exactly that, not try to avoid that question.

Standart pre-pull is non optimal? As far as I understand, you are one of those who, having seen the shields, naively believes that shields it's enough? Okaaay. I have seen such wise men in the savage. While they were dealing their damage, the tank was healed by off-tank and raised by dps. Better to switch roles then.

[Ashpd]

Standart pre-pull is non optimal? As far as I understand, you are one of those who, having seen the shields, naively believes that shields it's enough? Okaaay.

I say FROM START. Not PRE-PULL. Turn off your "all whm are toxic bad" and answer question - why need overheal, if co-healer start healing unoptimal (ex. - spam medica after every light aoe)?