Quote Originally Posted by Sauteed View Post
It offers nothing outside of a mount here, or a glam there, maybe orchestrion rolls which to me are the only slightly tempting thing I'll endure it for but I've as of yet to build up the desire to go for that. If something needs rewards to make it something you would play it is a good indication that the content is either extremely poorly designed or just bad, and the proof is that it NEEDS a reward to be engaging for someone to be slightly interested in it.
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't necessarily agree with your conclusion in this part. True, content should be fun for the sake of being fun, but especially with something that is naturally going to have a smaller draw by it's nature such as PvP, rewards act as additional incentives for people to engage with the content. Especially with as much content as there is to do in the game, with basically everything having a reward of some sort, the percentage of players who would be willing to engage with PvP solely for the prestige is likely close to zero (as even the players who like PvP would likely prefer to spend their time on something that offers other possible rewards)

There are no real rewards I value particularly from doing palace of the dead, I still do that from time to time because to me, it is fun. I have no real benefit to leveling an alt other than just having more inventory space, or checking out another world or seeing the msq again in the context of doing all the running around, but I still do it because I find it an enjoyable experience.
Palace of the Dead provides EXP for jobs as well as items that can be sold, so even if some players engage would engage with that content purely for the joy of playing PotD without ANY rewards whatsoever, I doubt there would be enough to make the content viable for anything but the most niche appeal. I don't really compare Alts/NG+ to other content as the primary experience is very much a re-engagement with the story, so it's more like the reason someone might rewatch a movie or reread a book rather than reason people might requeue for Feast

That being said, there is just absolutely nothing appealing to me about current XIV pvp. It's just in utter need of total rework, and all modes are just trash garbage to me.
Is there something in particular you can point to in PvP that is not engaging for you? Your feedback about rewards was worth discussion, but this last bit in particular is just bashing PvP for the sake of bashing PvP and wouldn't give them anything to work towards beyond 'not this'. The design space of things which are not what FFXIV is currently doing for PvP is just far too wide open to actually do anything with feedback that is 'this sucks, I don't wanna play it', so I hope you can give us a better idea of things that make the PvP less fun for you from a gameplay standpoint!