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  1. #11
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    MariaArvana's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    If by "this board" you mean "one guy" then you are correct. The rest of us don't like it one bit.
    They're probably referring to what Square's preferred methodology regarding how they want people to use the forums is, which he is correct on.

    Yoshi-P has stated numerous times across LiveLetters that tons of individual topics spread out are more likely to be ignored by dev feedback than single, huge threads where all information can be easily compiled instead of having the people in charge of compiling community opinion/criticisms/etc chase down hundreds of topics to compile information. With that in mind, necro'ing & posting in older topics if they have relevant discussion to add is precisely what the devs want people to be doing.

    That being said, that one guy basically never contributes anything to the threads he bumps, so that'd be a different topic to argue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I mean, for the moderators to block the troll from using the forum. Moderate the discussion.
    Based on current evidence...good luck with that. It seems they don't care about people resurrecting outdated threads where the information has changed, quite often drastically.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaArvana View Post
    They're probably referring to what Square's preferred methodology regarding how they want people to use the forums is, which he is correct on.

    Yoshi-P has stated numerous times across LiveLetters that tons of individual topics spread out are more likely to be ignored by dev feedback than single, huge threads where all information can be easily compiled instead of having the people in charge of compiling community opinion/criticisms/etc chase down hundreds of topics to compile information. With that in mind, necro'ing & posting in older topics if they have relevant discussion to add is precisely what the devs want people to be doing.

    That being said, that one guy basically never contributes anything to the threads he bumps, so that'd be a different topic to argue.
    ^This. Single threads are infinitely more accessible and easier to gain info from than a thousand topics all talking about the same thing. Necro'ing & bumping topics that are still relevant topics to this day instead of making new ones should be encouraged, as long as discussion is relevant.
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  4. #14
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    ^This. Single threads are infinitely more accessible and easier to gain info from than a thousand topics all talking about the same thing. Necro'ing & bumping topics that are still relevant topics to this day instead of making new ones should be encouraged, as long as discussion is relevant.
    I'm all for Mega-Threads but after 3/6 months of inactivity the discussion clearly isn't relevant anymore.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  5. #15
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    Honestly I'm all for them just hard locking threads after three months have passed. If nothing has been added in that time period then the topic wasn't worth continuing in that particular thread to begin with. Course on top of that I would also like an overhaul of the block system for these forums as it's one of the worst I've ever encountered since you can still see the person you blocked posting all the time, you just can't access what they posted.
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  6. #16
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    TeraTyrantShadic's Avatar
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    J'naiah Terran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Honestly I'm all for them just hard locking threads after three months have passed. If nothing has been added in that time period then the topic wasn't worth continuing in that particular thread to begin with. Course on top of that I would also like an overhaul of the block system for these forums as it's one of the worst I've ever encountered since you can still see the person you blocked posting all the time, you just can't access what they posted.
    I disagree as some of these 3 month old threads can still be relevant to discussing some topics as of today and it is better to keep all in one thread than multiple thread. I mean I have posted in the JP community thread and they really do keep things organized there and their Moderators are preventing similar thread and always direct you to the correct thread to provide your suggestions and feedback on. Basically in the ENG community we have too many similar thread and it is very disorganized and we treat the general discussion forum as our main hub to discussing about the game and certain aspects of it, rather than using specific threads.
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  7. #17
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Getting really tired of a single troll able to control the front page by necro'ing months/years old threads.
    Sadly I support this idea.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Sadly I support this idea.
    Agreed, I have no clue who that troll is but it needs to stop. Since they may make everyone look bad including those with actual discussion points to be brought up.
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    I support archiving topics that haven't had new posts in 3+ months.

    Unfortunately, the fact the troll in question hasn't been dealt with by moderators means they're either asleep at the wheel due to COVID or what he's doing isn't technically against the ToS. I find the latter more likely, though the former is a possibility I can't entirely discount. Either way, archiving old threads would deal with the issue and prevent other trolls from exploiting the same loophole, so I feel it's a more viable course of action moving forward.
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

  10. #20
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    I think people are being a bit too much glass half full that it wouldn't move the window to where the person then just revives things at the 5 and a hair month marker or some other new activity.

    Not arguing if people feel frustrated or not but just seems like we're going to give ourselves a bunch of rules meanwhile the person everyone is trying to tie up will dance around the rules that just tied us up instead. Tom and jerry and we're Jerry, or we're Coyote, either way it's not great lol.

    If people want to stop old threads for some other reason we can discuss that but in order to tie up a particular person I feel like it's not a good use of rules. There is so much they can be doing that this is going to simply change the color of your annoyance but not reduce it in the slightest, like a cat chasing a laser pointer. Which again isn't me discussing whether people find them troublesome or whatever. Most of the threads I find fine or easily ignorable (if I don't care I don't post), since clearly people can still discuss in most of them, but that's just a personal thing, I can understand how others find someone owning the entire front page with old stuff is just "off / doesn't seem quite right". It's that I don't think this will do anything besides tie up people who didn't need it and do nothing to those that people were trying to tie up.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-07-2020 at 08:12 AM.

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