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  1. #11
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    I would prefer that PLD sword and shield became a single item, and then equipping an optional sword+shield in the offhand would set the shield model. NIN, PLD, RDM, and maybe even MNK and DNC would all be able to benefit from such a system.

    Weapons would be uniformly one slot across the board, simplifying loot and item acquisition for PLDs (though effectively making shields more expensive, as you would have to buy an entire sword+shield in order to set a mismatched shield), with all stats set by the main weapon. Meanwhile, anything optionally equipped to the offhand slot would contribute no stats and just be there for glamour.
    Either way works, but the current system is already really good for glamours(for offhand like shields), typically they reduce the charge of the sword and put the rest into the shield, when it comes to relics or tome weapons respectively. As much of a pain it would be for current Ninja, just splitting the stats and damage wouldnt actually change the current system besides having to buy two for the price of one at tome vendors(and the fun part of min maxing a secondary with different secondary stats etc). That being said it makes the off hand slot box which is primarilly unused by most jobs, fill up slightly more. I like your idea too, just that the system is already in place for off hand as is. The problem is as op stated getting the secondary weapon looks to reflect what is equipped, glamoured. That seems to be mostly on the graphical end. Not to really bust their balls or anything but i am pretty sure they didnt do offhands for Rog/Nin is primarilly because they wanted an easier time. This is why you saw shields on casters disappear after the first coil of bahamut. I dont think that its that the system isnt there(hence op saying it was done in a day by an indie) but that they just didnt want to deal with crunching numbers, and people complaining like early pld when say 1 shield or 1 sword would drop but not both. They have even less to worry about in that sense, as well because weapons dont deal status effects or elemental damage or any of that nonesense, they would just add the total sum of both weapons as the damage. Also they had to design the single weapon anyway
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 10-06-2020 at 06:19 PM.

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    Narumi Akiudo
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    I dont think that its that the system isnt there(hence op saying it was done in a day by an indie)
    but you see, the system isn't there, and it wasn't done in a day by some buddy of his, texture modding is not remotely the same thing as actually making it run server side in a way you can just swap it out by changing an extra (not yet defined) item and having this actually display and work correctly for everyone.

    that isn't to say theres no way it can be done, and again, i really like the idea. IF doable without too much hassle than yes, i totally agree that square should go for it.

    However, lets not be blind to the reality of it, the amount of work this would in the end require is depending on quite a bit of variables.
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    Last edited by Akiudo; 10-06-2020 at 09:38 PM.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiudo View Post
    but you see, the system isn't there, and it wasn't done in a day by some buddy of his, texture modding is not remotely the same thing as actually it run server side in a way you can just swap it out by changing an extra (not yet defined) item and having this actually display and work correctly for everyone.

    that isn't to say theres no way it can be done, and again, i really like the idea, IF doable without too much hassle than yes, i would totally agree that square should go for it.

    However, lets not be blind to the reality of it, the amount of work this would in the end require is depending on quite a bit of variables.
    True that, it isnt necessarily a qol improvement neither, as the system working fine.
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    Severa Nanase
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    I wouldn't mind them doing this, but I think they've said before they won't. I would also like to see a weapon for them that is something like a blade in one hand and a claw in the other, or even just a single blade in one hand. Looking at their animations, I don't think it would look too off-putting.
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    Eristede Kell
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    I would strongly support this, particularly for the option to glamour the off hand as empty. As you may recall, the iconic ninja poster has one weapon and one hand free (for mudra).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Friend was able to do it with a model editor in a morning, i'm sure even an indie company like SE would be able to work it in.



    I don’t doubt it would take some time and resources but it’s definitely doable. I’d prefer this to the next umbrella or cuddly toy or whatever they’re adding to fashion accessories.
    Did your friend, add in code to be able to change the 2nd weapon or did he merely design the offhand differently while still remaining it as a set. Because those are 2 things and their WAY different. Being able to decide from 2 different weapons or simply making 1 with a different main and off hand.
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