FFIV Characters for Jobs Missions

[Gameronkeyboard]

What if in 6.0 we found the FFIV Characters for some jobs.
Paladin we found Cecil.
Dark Knight we found Golbez.
Bard we found Edward.
Dragoon we can found Kain.

And in the lvl 90 they make a FFIV 24-man raid based with all classes needing to fight the four-fiends.

The unique problem i see is with Samurai, RedMage, Dancer, Schoolar and astrologian.

maybe Fusoya as a astrologian and Rosa or Palom as a Schoolar, but i don't know

[Enkidoh]

Hydaelyn is it's own independent world seperate from every other FF game world (this is straight from the development team themselves) - having said that certain characters from other FF titles have appeared temporarily in Hydaelyn as a result of trans-dimensional shennigians during short-term special events (Iroha and Shantotto from FFXI, Noctis from FFXV, Lightning from FFXIII), but those are not technically part of the main scenario and exist outside of it, and the Ivalice raids feature Hydaelyn-versions of characters from FFXII and FF Tactics, who, are long dead by the time of the present day story.

Also Kain exists in Ishgard folklore as a long-dead DRG who "abandoned his duty for honour", according to the description of the Wind-Up Kain minion.

The Job quest npcs are based on lore-specific characters who are native to Hydaelyn, not those actual characters who are posterboys for those Jobs in past FF games. Some might have vague referencing to those characters (such as Radovan in the GNB quests being hrothgar a vague tip of the hat to the lion imagery gunblade-wielding Squall adopted in FFVIII), but most do not.

I love fanservice to past FF titles as much as the next FF fan, but I think a line has to be drawn about what is too much. So I have to say a big resounding no to this idea I'm sorry.

[Yuella]

They can probably do it for each role. Cecil for tank, Rosa for healer, Rydia for caster, Kain for physical DPS

[Eloah]

Why specifically the characters from IV? Is it because of the cameo in the latest trial?

[Gameronkeyboard]

Why specifically the characters from IV? Is it because of the cameo in the latest trial?

Because it's my personal favourite.

But more important it's because it was the first FF to have a great focus in static jobs for each character.

[Jandroid]

I love FF4 and grew up with the 16-bit Final Fantasy games (FF4/FF5/FF6)! That said, I don't think we'll be seeing these characters appear in FF14 as they are and the development team are more likely to create new characters that are based on the original ones. Ivalice was recreated in FF14 and is in no way canonically related to FF12; the Crystal Tower was recreated in FF14 and is in no way canonically related to FF3; Shantotto, Lightning, and Noctis are crossover and non-canon; etc.

No main numbered Final Fantasy game, aside from sequels like X-2 and XIII-2 if these count as main entries, has ever share the same world as another main numbered Final Fantasy game. FFT isn't a main numbered game so FF12 sharing the same world doesn't break this rule.

My personal prediction though is that we could be going to the moon alongside Sharlayan next expansion. If this is the case then we could be seeing the Tower of Babil and/or the Lunar Subterrane as the next Alliance Raid. It's possible that Takashi Tokita, the scenario writer and lead game designer of FF4, could end up being the guest creator for a FF4 themed Alliance Raid.

[Vyrerus]

Ehh, the FFIV character jobs mostly don't fit the jobs we have. Plus, Golbez wasn't a Dark Knight. He was in the same vein as Rydia, capable of high level black magic and summoned monsters (summoning a shadow dragon, at least as a villain).

I'd love for us to get some FFIV references in dungeons and raids, but no thanks to the characters.

[Morningstar1337]

I rather support some sort of optional trial series that features characters based on IV characters (like the Twins and the Arch-Fiends) but as for the actual characters themselves...pretty unlikely.

[ADVSS]

Ehh, the FFIV character jobs mostly don't fit the jobs we have. Plus, Golbez wasn't a Dark Knight. He was in the same vein as Rydia, capable of high level black magic and summoned monsters (summoning a shadow dragon, at least as a villain).

I'd love for us to get some FFIV references in dungeons and raids, but no thanks to the characters.

True that, but Golbez in the after years was kind of like an Eldritch Knight (Black Mage spells, heavy armor, sword and shield)

[Gothicshark]

What if in 6.0 we found the FFIV Characters for some jobs.
Paladin we found Cecil.
Dark Knight we found Golbez.
Bard we found Edward.
Dragoon we can found Kain.

And in the lvl 90 they make a FFIV 24-man raid based with all classes needing to fight the four-fiends.

The unique problem i see is with Samurai, RedMage, Dancer, Schoolar and astrologian.

maybe Fusoya as a astrologian and Rosa or Palom as a Schoolar, but i don't know

Interesting idea, doubt it would happen, but interesting.

Hydaelyn is it's own independent world seperate from every other FF game world (this is straight from the development team themselves) -

You should pay attention to when they said that, and How. Because yes each Numbered Final Fantasy game has it's own world, however, they have dropped enough comments, and clues in all the games and interviews to suggest there is more to it than just what you are assuming their meaning is. First, the comments about every numbered FF game having its own world, was long before Shadowbringer, and at the same time they confirmed There is only one Gilgamesh (he travels time and space to visit each game he appears in), Characters from one FF worlds can and do traverse game worlds, they also hinted that time is a factor in FF worlds as well, the numbered games do not happen in sequential order, but there is one.

And finally, ALL lasting crossover events in FFXIV are canon to FFXIV, however, the one-off ones might not be. ie Ivalice, Void Arc, Crystal Tower, Nier Automata, Omega, etc, are all canon raids, however, these lore bits are things that happened independently of the games they reference.

This means the fan theory that all Final Fantasy games are connected is confirmed, but not as people thought. Also, thanks to 14's canon events of 14 worlds, and implications that the First is supposed to reference the first game, one can not assume anything anymore about the final fantasy cosmos, which you are doing.


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here let's do a thought experiment, is Pre-Columbian North America considered the same world, as Feudal Japan, or the Roman Empire? The English term New World and Old World is your answer, was the past the same world as our Modern World? Most linguistics say no. If you ask someone in Los Angeles in 2020 if they live in the same world as the people in Mississippi in 2020, they will say no.

Reference of time, space, and point of view, means a great deal to how to interpret the concept of different game worlds and are they actually separate. yeah, there is more than one Ivalice, but they could actually all have happened on the planet called the Source, because of this concept. The dev team has always been shady with their wording on how they answer the question of are they connected. They specifically said 'Each Numbered Final Fantasy Game has it's own Star (meaning world not sun in the sky)' and at the same time, they have also made it clear they consider the Far East a different "Realm", and of course the First is a whole different "Star" as well. They do love being tricky with their wording. Because they consider the 4 kingdoms of Eorzea to be one realm, which if you understand the word meaning removes the smallest definition. (Kingdom) and implies something much larger ie Continent. But considering that Eorzea in a region on a massive continental shelf which includes Eorzea, the East, Garlean, and a whole lot more, it is safe to describe the continent as around the same size as Euroasia. With Ivalice fitting around India, Garlean North Central Europe (Austro-Hungry), and Eorzea being South Western Europe (Spain & France) and England.


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tl;dr don't assume anything about the Final Fantasy Cosmos, as Square has one, and they love to give misdirection about it.