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  1. #29131
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    I feel like they need to have a dungeon or other mandatory encounter before the Final Steps of Faith that uses the standard stack AoE indicator (The second boss of Sohm Al does have a stack AoE but it displays as a generic red arrow for whatever reason).

    It's kind of alarming how often I run into people who sprint into a corner when Akh Morn is targeting them, which often leads to multiple players getting sniped by the subsequent AoEs.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 10-02-2020 at 11:26 AM.

  2. #29132
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    It's kind of alarming how often I run into people who sprint into a corner when Akh Morn is targeting them, which often leads to multiple players getting sniped by the subsequent AoEs.
    Whenever this happens I call them the sacrificial <insert job here>. Everyone just letting them run away and learn the hard way is the best way to handle it since it has the least impact on the run overall.
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  3. #29133
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    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    Abania Dungeon Crawl
    I feel like this is a compound issue. Because if the tank was adequately geared (and using proper CDs) they shouldn\\'t have been melting. Add in a SAM who is already ridiculously powerful even at lvl 50 and those ads should have been dying faster. Yes the healer might have been struggling a bit due to gear (and apparently not knowing their full skillset at that point) but if the rest of the group had been solid it probably wouldn\\'t have been that bad. It\\'s rough being the only vet in a dungeon sometimes (well most of the time, really) so kudos for scraping through that. XD
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  4. #29134
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    The Qitana Ravel or Malikah's Well, I don't remember which one.

    The boss dropped a stack mark on the BLM and he immediately ran AWAY from us. There was a silent agreement that no one would follow him. He died.

    BLM: Wow that hurts
    DRK: Yeah that was a stack mark
    BLM: Now I know
    Me(AST): But... You are on Shadowbringers...
    NIN: This game keeps surprising me
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  5. #29135
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    I feel like this is a compound issue. Because if the tank was adequately geared (and using proper CDs) they shouldn\\'t have been melting. Add in a SAM who is already ridiculously powerful even at lvl 50 and those ads should have been dying faster. Yes the healer might have been struggling a bit due to gear (and apparently not knowing their full skillset at that point) but if the rest of the group had been solid it probably wouldn\\'t have been that bad. It\\'s rough being the only vet in a dungeon sometimes (well most of the time, really) so kudos for scraping through that. XD
    It was weird because they had over 41k hp, which meant they had scavean gear on at least. Normally tanks either at level or just hit 70 without getting their 70 stuff sit at 35k-39k hp from what I've encountered. There was no way their hp should've been going down that fast, however the healer was dropping out 5.6k Physicks and their fairy was piddling out Embraces less than 1k each.
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  6. #29136
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    Tenko Chabashira
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    Goblin
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    The Trial Roulette brought me to Thornmarch Hard. I was leveling my WHM, which is at level 70.

    The trial went smoothly for the start of it, with someone marking the best Moogle to take down, and everyone contributing DPS when necessary, including me and the other WHM. For the battle against Good King Moggle Mog XIII, the first half also wasn't too bad. Then King Mog wiped out all four DPS in one go. Me and the other WHM were stunned for a second, then went about rezzing them as fast as we could.

    In the rush, I didn't catch what happened, so could someone enlighten me? How did King Mog kill four DPS in the space of five seconds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowthefirst View Post
    The Trial Roulette brought me to Thornmarch Hard. I was leveling my WHM, which is at level 70.

    The trial went smoothly for the start of it, with someone marking the best Moogle to take down, and everyone contributing DPS when necessary, including me and the other WHM. For the battle against Good King Moggle Mog XIII, the first half also wasn't too bad. Then King Mog wiped out all four DPS in one go. Me and the other WHM were stunned for a second, then went about rezzing them as fast as we could.

    In the rush, I didn't catch what happened, so could someone enlighten me? How did King Mog kill four DPS in the space of five seconds?
    King Mog's attack Memento Moogle scales with how many moogles are still alive at the time of casting. He casts based on his own health percentage. You had too many DPS attacking the King instead of the adds.
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    I give up with you people. Forum community is absolutely unhinged. Imagine joining my alt's FC just to wait for me to come online to harass me lmao.

  8. #29138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chie_M View Post
    King Mog's attack Memento Moogle scales with how many moogles are still alive at the time of casting. He casts based on his own health percentage. You had too many DPS attacking the King instead of the adds.
    Alright, thanks for letting me know! Thinking back on the battle, I think the DPS figured that Good King Moggle Mog XIII had low enough health to burn through before Memento Moogle went off. Apparently, they judged incorrectly. But that's why healers are there, to patch up these messes. XD
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  9. #29139
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowthefirst View Post
    Alright, thanks for letting me know! Thinking back on the battle, I think the DPS figured that Good King Moggle Mog XIII had low enough health to burn through before Memento Moogle went off. Apparently, they judged incorrectly. But that's why healers are there, to patch up these messes. XD
    I'm pretty sure they changed the normal fight at some point in 5.x. It used to be that you could kill 4 mogs, 5 to be safe, and then kill the king. Every run since 5.0 that I've had where that was tried, however, ended up poorly. Now I just kill all the mogs and no one takes any damage. It's sort of both harder but easier at the same time since if you kill them earlier like we used to you take more damage than before, but if you kill them all you take less than we used to. They effectively nerfed it but also made it less skippable.

    Edit: Found it! Patch 5.1
    "When the Mogglesguard moogles are present on the field, damage dealt to Good King Moggle Mog XII cannot exceed a certain threshold.
    Maximum damage dealt by Memento Moogle has been reduced."

    Looks like you even have to kill all the moogles now.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 10-03-2020 at 02:18 PM.

  10. #29140
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Queue up alliance roulette and get WoD run as SCH. Cohealer is good because they shared the healing kit and DPS' majority of the fight with me, so we minimized healing and maximized skipping mechanics.
    At some point, no one noticed the slimes getting together against the five headed dragon. I noticed the toxic slime (big slime) spawned and the last couple of slimes were trying to get together. I killed the small slimes but no one else noticed the big slime or ignored it altogether, so the entire alliance takes a huge raidwide damage and 10 second silence. I had enough of the 10 second silences of WoD runs so I used my echo drops I prepared for this occasion. Funnily enough, my cohealer did the same thing and removed the silence with their echo drops, so our alliance was just vibing as we shrugged off the damage while the other two alliances were panicking and screaming for 10 seconds. Fun stuff.
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