Auto sneak is shit

[Choco_Breeder_Twirly]

So you can get annoyed enough to turn it off?

It annoys the poo out of me as well, be it fishing, mining, or botanisterising... Yes i can turn it off but the issue is WHEN i turn it off i WANT IT TO STAY OFF!! Going from zone to zone to zone to zone having to turn it off EVERY SINGLE TIME is annoying as all crap!! I understand that the old Sneak was slow and people didnt like it. Ok so just make it what it is now but NOT AUTOMATICALLY every single time i change zone. I want it off i dont need to on and in the very very few cases where i do need it on b/c a mob is practically right ontop of my node I will turn it on myself. There is zero reason to make it an automatic thing the way it is now.

[Jojoya]

It annoys the poo out of me as well, be it fishing, mining, or botanisterising... Yes i can turn it off but the issue is WHEN i turn it off i WANT IT TO STAY OFF!! Going from zone to zone to zone to zone having to turn it off EVERY SINGLE TIME is annoying as all crap!! I understand that the old Sneak was slow and people didnt like it. Ok so just make it what it is now but NOT AUTOMATICALLY every single time i change zone. I want it off i dont need to on and in the very very few cases where i do need it on b/c a mob is practically right ontop of my node I will turn it on myself. There is zero reason to make it an automatic thing the way it is now.

Having to turn it back on after every time I had passed through a city or switched classes was annoying, too.

There was every reason to make it automatic - players were getting annoyed by it frequently being turned off when there was no reason for it to be off.

This isn't a fight that you'll win when you're part of the very small minority that wants Sneak always off when the vast majority would prefer to have it always on.

It would be nice if SE just changed it back to the faded appearance instance of having those those balls floating around, though. That was an unnecessary change.

[Tint]

Having to turn it back on after every time I had passed through a city or switched classes was annoying, too.

There was every reason to make it automatic - players were getting annoyed by it frequently being turned off when there was no reason for it to be off.

This isn't a fight that you'll win when you're part of the very small minority that wants Sneak always off when the vast majority would prefer to have it always on.

It would be nice if SE just changed it back to the faded appearance instance of having those those balls floating around, though. That was an unnecessary change.

The faded appearance would be even more stupid when it is always on.

And it should be always on and do it automatically. But when it is always on, and turns on automatically, for what do we need the visual indicator?

The skill works perfectly fine, it is just ugly.

[Jojoya]

The faded appearance would be even more stupid when it is always on.

Why would the faded appearance be even more stupid? The balls are worse because they scream "Here I am!!!!!" when you're supposed to be avoiding detection.

The visual indicator has been for the benefit of other players as much as for ourselves. If I'm doing quests or leves and see someone in Sneak, I know to avoid dragging monsters with a cleave/large AoE toward that player since they're not in a combat job, have reduced HP and will not be able to move out of the way quickly if they start interacting with a node.

I never had a problem seeing other players with the old faded appearance. Did you?

[Tint]

Why would the faded appearance be even more stupid? The balls are worse because they scream "Here I am!!!!!" when you're supposed to be avoiding detection.

The visual indicator has been for the benefit of other players as much as for ourselves. If I'm doing quests or leves and see someone in Sneak, I know to avoid dragging monsters with a cleave/large AoE toward that player since they're not in a combat job, have reduced HP and will not be able to move out of the way quickly if they start interacting with a node.

I never had a problem seeing other players with the old faded appearance. Did you?

I just hated the faded appearance on myself >.>

Glamour still is the true endgame, and I want to be able to see my character properly. It was okay using it from time to time, but when it is automatically active all the time? I rather stay with the floating balls...

You can drag AoE's onto them, they will not get hit when they don't have drawn enmity, and they only draw enmity when they use an auto-attack on the monster. The problem that gatherers get hit by other peoples AoEs was fixed long ago.

[Jojoya]

The problem that gatherers get hit by other peoples AoEs was fixed long ago.

That I didn't know. Thanks for sharing the info.

As for glamour being the true end game, a lot of that is having others see your glamour. That's not a problem in the cities where players congregate to see and be seen since Sneak is disabled there.