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    Narumi Akiudo
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    If I'm being honest, I find the whole "who is 'people'..." thing very condescending. You have evidence in this very thread of people saying they wish that the job would split. Those are the "people" I'm talking about, and yet your statement comes across as very "well who ACTUALLY wants that anyway?" You keep acting like you deserve the bard you want more than any other player and assume I'm doing the same in reverse when I've stated before that all of us deserve the bard or ranger we want equally.




    Well if you turn back a few pages, you'd see the idea of a FF14 bard that I think would be a reasonable change all things considered--a bard that has a defined window of almost exclusive archery and an equal defined window of almost exclusive music. That's along the lines of the best we can realistically hope for, but if you want to know what I interpret as specifically a DPS bard, this is the example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMf6NdM55ws

    THAT would be a DPS bard in my opinion, using music to attack and support. And if we did get a true-to-its-name bard, then yes I would want the player base who want a defined Archer/Ranger to have their own job as well.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: There are players who like the ranger/bard hybrid, there are players who want a dedicated bard, and there are players who want a dedicated ranger. All of us are equally deserving of the things we want, either because it's not fair to rip away an existing job that's been created from the people who enjoy or because it's not fair to the players who want to play a Final Fantasy Bard or Ranger in the modern MMO Final Fantasy to have to kiss their dream jobs goodbye because of some awkward decision making that occured back in 1.0 that stapled the two jobs together at the hip.
    i apologize if it came of as condescending, however what i wanted to illustrate with "who is people" is who actually asked for what exactly, that wasn't meant as a slight to anyones opinion but to lead into what i listed later on, that people may have completly different ideas of what a bard/ranger even is to them. i actually agree with you, there are player like me that may want a hybrid, some a dedicated ranger, some may want a "real" bard, and we as players are equally as "deserving" of any of that than the others. however on that note many offer a ranger/bard split as some ultimate solution to that problem, and these people, and this does in fact include you as you yourself "offered" this complete split between music and archery as the best way to appease everyone back when i first asked "what about people like me?" in fact most of the time exclude the middle ground and furthermore are often unclear on what people want exactly.

    i'm not trying to offend you or get a rise out of you or anyone for that matter, but just as you yourself said right now how you could see a ffxiv bard "working", say you get exactly that, a bard with an exclusive window of archery and one of music, now say square makes it happen. what does this bard offer to those that want to ditch the bow completly, or at least 90% of it ? what does this bard offer to people that don't even care for the bow but are mostly about buffing and supporting their group ?

    when i asked "who are people and what do they want" i didn't intend to invalidate your opinion, i wanted to showcase that even if you just look at "i want a real bard" what this means can and does differ wildly between people.
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    Last edited by Akiudo; 09-27-2020 at 07:42 AM.

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