Job change suggestions for BRD in 6.0

[SweetPete]

i second that wholeheartedly. i get where people are coming from if they say bard right now is too much of an archer, i also understand why people may want something like a pure musical bard/pure ranger but i feel like to often people asking for a split like this ignore that theres also a part of the playerbase that likes something as is, at least from a general standpoint.

I mentioned this in another thread where someone mentioned "simply" splitting bard into bard/ranger, i like my bard/ranger as is, as a bowman that uses song to inspire his comrades still alive while lamenting those allready gone. Personally yes, i agree that gutting bards support in favor of dancer (if even that, may aswell have been in favor of bringing physical ranged as a whole down, and have nothing really to do with dancers introduction) was a bad move, and yes i wish current Bard had a bit more "Bard".

But simply deleting this class that saw their comrades fall, couldn't help them with their fight do to the nature and limitations of their fighting style, this class that in their own helplessness started to sing, started to once again help their comrades, this time through giving them hope and inspiration and in exchange giving us 2 completly different classes is a slap to the face for those that actually like the current bard lore.

I wouldn’t complain if they split the job but I know they won’t. As of now bard is more of a ranger than a bard. I can understand SE being worried that brd/dnc will become meta etc but there is balance to everything. They didn’t have to strip bard of its support in favor of dancer. When shadowbringers came out bard lost its support. How can you call the job a bard then? Dancer is a healthy mix of both dps and support. If they can do it for dancer why not for bard too?

[Akiudo]

I wouldn’t complain if they split the job but I know they won’t. As of now bard is more of a ranger than a bard. I can understand SE being worried that brd/dnc will become meta etc but there is balance to everything. They didn’t have to strip bard of its support in favor of dancer. When shadowbringers came out bard lost its support. How can you call the job a bard then? Dancer is a healthy mix of both dps and support.

thats fair, and like i said i also wish that bard right now was bit "more bard", its just that more than once people mentioned splitting bard/ranger completly as a "fix all" where everyone is happy, and i think its important to realize that no, that would not mean everyone is happy. Wishing for current bard to be a bit less archer and a bit more bard as a middle ground between pure bard/ranger is also a completly fair opinion, in fact its what bard originally was designed to be lorewise.

If they can do it for dancer why not for bard too?

with that i agree, the question however is what square intends in that regard as a whole. right now their balancing inside the roles seems to be "no support->weak support->strong support", which i would say is not necessary but kinda the easy way out solution. you have that the clearest with the physical ranged, but it also exists with the casters and the melees (well, if you want to call dps buffs support at least), i.e you have 1 selfish class, 1 (2 in the case of melee) middle ground class and 1 support heavier one. at any rate, we'll have to see how they move forward with that, personally i don't see any real necessity or even good reason for that but in the end we'll have to wait and see how square will move along with both its role aswell as class balance as a whole.