Would you want the Firmament to be a feature for future expansions?

[Edax]

But everyone can't craft everything all the the time though.
This is true free market, you choose your niche. Hyper-deflation is always better than hyper-inflation.
I approve of making crafting more accessible, the HQ end game crafting is still not an easy feat. It just allows the "ok" crafters to make some money as well.

What does it matter if the endgame market is flooded with goods? If endgame goods are as accessible as buying from a NPC vendor, then there's no point in crafting. What makes crafting profitable is because the endgame consumer goods *aren't* supposed to be extremely accessible. I myself used to craft all the time, now I almost never craft because it isn't worth my time. When supply vastly overwhelms demand, there's no profit to be made.

[Amnmaat]

When supply vastly overwhelms demand, there's no profit to be made.

Not true, you're acting as if the market is not growing? The more and more patches we get the more unique things there are to craft. Sure, you might not be making as much as before but that's balanced out with the lower expense of "living" that comes with deflation.
Furthermore, you can still make a healthy amount by finding your niche. You just want to be the grandmaster crafter whom the peasants sell their kidney to buy from. When you could be making similar money or a little bit less by adapting and finding your niche. It's ok to adapt, you don't need a system rigged in your favor.

[ZattanaWen]

Not true, you're acting as if the market is not growing? The more and more patches we get the more unique things there are to craft. Sure, you might not be making as much as before but that's balanced out with the lower expense of "living" that comes with deflation.
Furthermore, you can still make a healthy amount by finding your niche. You just want to be the grandmaster crafter whom the peasants sell their kidney to buy from. When you could be making similar money or a little bit less by adapting and finding your niche. It's ok to adapt, you don't need a system rigged in your favor.

I think she's referring to the fact that there's now like 20-30 listings for something like the Aesthete gear where in the past you might have expected to see 5 tops. And their prices are laughably low because now you have a dozen people all undercutting each other because there aren't 20-30 people buying the gear on the MB. Impossible to profit from if you don't gather at least most of the materials yourself, which can be beyond tedious. A lot of the people crafting and selling that gear, if they aren't bots themselves, they absolutely employ gathering bots at the very least.

[ItMe]

I enjoyed the Domain Enclave, but it's a bit too similar to
The restoration was like that but more fully conceived.
If they kept iterating on this sort of thing I'd welcome it.

[Edax]

I think she's referring to the fact that there's now like 20-30 listings for something like the Aesthete gear where in the past you might have expected to see 5 tops. And their prices are laughably low because now you have a dozen people all undercutting each other because there aren't 20-30 people buying the gear on the MB. Impossible to profit from if you don't gather at least most of the materials yourself, which can be beyond tedious. A lot of the people crafting and selling that gear, if they aren't bots themselves, they absolutely employ gathering bots at the very least.

That's exactly right. It's almost to the point that you can remove crafting entirely and just put the crafted gear for sale on an NPC and nothing will change.