What's up with the other members of the Convocation? (Spoilers)

[Anonymoose]

I think the implication was that Hydaelyn uses the term for Her chosen, then it becomes synonymous with hero and applied to anyone who does great deeds, and since Zodiark was summoned with the desire to "save the world", Elidibus can side-jack some power from the zealotry of anyone who wants to save the world, so he eggs it on sometimes. For me there's a leap from there to "The Warrior of Light is a legend spread by Elidibus" that I'm not quite ready for.

[Kesey]

I'd like to add my hunch that the 12 Ancients following Venat and help summon Hydaelyn are probably the 12 gods of the people of Eorzea. You can see them in the cutscene that immediately follows Anemnesis Anyder.

In other threads I've been calling them the Hydaelyn Convocation until we're given a proper name for them.

Furthermore, I feel that we aren't done with Venat either. As the Heart of Hydaelyn, much like Elidibus, says they will return and in a form of their choosing. So I guess the question remains who or what was Venat and what have they been doing?

[Kesey]

I think the implication was that Hydaelyn uses the term for Her chosen, then it becomes synonymous with hero and applied to anyone who does great deeds, and since Zodiark was summoned with the desire to "save the world", Elidibus can side-jack some power from the zealotry of anyone who wants to save the world, so he eggs it on sometimes. For me there's a leap from there to "The Warrior of Light is a legend spread by Elidibus" that I'm not quite ready for.

Yes. But I'm willing to guess that we may find out that all of Hydaelyn's WOL were souls with a fragment of Azem's soul reincarnated through time. I think back to the four lords quest where Suzaku looks at our soul and sees Tenzen. Or the soul scan in done by the pods in Azys Lla during the Warring Triad quests that recognize us as citizens of the Allagan empire during the war with Mercaydia. I'm willing to bet the heroes in the history book mentioned in 5.3 were us too and maybe we were Ramza in the ff14 version of history Ivalice. I've wondered if these memories could be triggered with interaction with the missing Midgradsormr children who would have lived through all of these events.

[Cilia]

Yes. But I'm willing to guess that we may find out that all of Hydaelyn's WOL were souls with a fragment of Azem's soul reincarnated through time. I think back to the four lords quest where Suzaku looks at our soul and sees Tenzen. Or the soul scan in done by the pods in Azys Lla during the Warring Triad quests that recognize us as citizens of the Allagan empire during the war with Mercaydia. I'm willing to bet the heroes in the history book mentioned in 5.3 were us too and maybe we were Ramza in the ff14 version of history Ivalice. I've wondered if these memories could be triggered with interaction with the missing Midgradsormr children who would have lived through all of these events.

While Tenzen being a previous incarnation of Azem is on the table, Ramza is not - his soul is still lingering around the Orbonne Monastery when we go there. Pretty sure the Allagan stuff was just malfunctioning, like lots of the stuff up there does. (It's been 5,000 years after all.)

Either way, the point I was trying to make is that the Warrior of Light title is not reserved exclusively for Hydaelyn's champion(s); rather it's used as a catchall term for any larger than life heroic figure, blessed by Hydaelyn or not. That was kind of the point of Elidibus making everyone think they were Warriors of Light even though they're just nascent Echo users. I admit the veracity of Elidibus creating and spreading the legend of the Warrior of Light is questionable (at best - I seem to be losing my rationality for some reason, someone help me find it!) but you don't have to have the Echo or be blessed by Hydaelyn to be or call yourself a Warrior of Light (in the eyes of common people, at any rate). Sundered, amnesiac Ascians may or may not be or have been Warriors of Light, but that title isn't limited to them.

Were all Hydaelyn's chosen Warriors of Light incarnations of Azem? Err... considering all the Warriors of Darkness (neé of Light) from the First were had at least one Crystal of Light, I seriously doubt it. (Ysayle did too.)