Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Vahlnir]

So, grinding Heroes' Gauntlet for the Casting Body(does this even exist...? almost 75+ runs and no drop of it still) and everything's going fine until we go to Berserker. As soon as the fight starts, the group decides to vote kick me. What kind of garbage is that? That is literally the worst kind of kick you can do to someone who hasn't done much other than burn things down quickly.

I had to pull a few adds because the tank was...well, just doing the smallest pulls possible(stopping at every mob gap...which is honestly extremely slow and boring). Still, to kick over a DPS pulling more mobs to the tank? I know I may be a hypocrite about saying that peeps need to slow down when pulling, but when you're in the last dungeon of the story? At Lv 80? By that time you should be out of your training wheels and be pulling wall to wall(since they literally implemented walls in this dungeon to limit mob pack pulling). I don't think the Vote Kick was necessary, just finish the dungeon and move on.

At that point it was definitely petty of them to kick you. However, you probably should have just gone with the flow to begin with. Sometimes things just aren't going to go as fast as you want. Should they have gone faster? The community standard says "probably", but that isn't up to you. The DF is full of random people so...take what you get or leave if you don't like what you get. So yeah, while I do believe that the kick was unnecessary (at that point) it was also something you probably had coming. A couple of things I've learned through the years are these...

1. Don't upset your healer

2. Don't upset your tank

Clearly you upset your tank at the very least. As a tank, I probably would have just sucked it up and finished asap. Stopping to kick anyone is simply wasting everyone's time regardless of how I feel about a person. Thankfully I go full speed, leaving people with little to no time to pull for me but not everyone is like that. I think you need to understand that as well. Some will be fast, some will be slow. Such is life.

[HyperiusUltima]

At that point it was definitely petty of them to kick you. However, you probably should have just gone with the flow to begin with. Sometimes things just aren't going to go as fast as you want. Should they have gone faster? The community standard says "probably", but that isn't up to you. The DF is full of random people so...take what you get or leave if you don't like what you get. So yeah, while I do believe that the kick was unnecessary (at that point) it was also something you probably had coming. A couple of things I've learned through the years are these...

1. Don't upset your healer

2. Don't upset your tank

Clearly you upset your tank at the very least. As a tank, I probably would have just sucked it up and finished asap. Stopping to kick anyone is simply wasting everyone's time regardless of how I feel about a person. Thankfully I go full speed, leaving people with little to no time to pull for me but not everyone is like that. I think you need to understand that as well. Some will be fast, some will be slow. Such is life.

So basically just lean to the healer and tank? I don't think that's necessary, despite them basically being the lifeline in dungeons. In general, by the time you've hit Lv 80(just from doing story alone, even from 70-80) you'll pick up that you can do way more than just one mob pack because Tanks have the tools to handle it; what mostly needs to be known is healer, even if they have the tools to handle basically anything, it doesn't mean that they have the skill level for it.

In The Heroes' Gauntlet, there tends to be a trend of packs of 2/3 that are scattered in the back or front, and then another pack that needs to be spawned. All of them need to die, and given the healer is using their CDs and Tank is cycling their CDs as well will help; but if the Healer can't take it, fine - try it smaller. I just don't get why at that level you should be doing the weakest pulls which are easy as doing pulls in Lv 50.

[Violet_Galaxy]

So, grinding Heroes' Gauntlet for the Casting Body(does this even exist...? almost 75+ runs and no drop of it still) and everything's going fine until we go to Berserker. As soon as the fight starts, the group decides to vote kick me. What kind of garbage is that? That is literally the worst kind of kick you can do to someone who hasn't done much other than burn things down quickly.

I had to pull a few adds because the tank was...well, just doing the smallest pulls possible(stopping at every mob gap...which is honestly extremely slow and boring). Still, to kick over a DPS pulling more mobs to the tank? I know I may be a hypocrite about saying that peeps need to slow down when pulling, but when you're in the last dungeon of the story? At Lv 80? By that time you should be out of your training wheels and be pulling wall to wall(since they literally implemented walls in this dungeon to limit mob pack pulling). I don't think the Vote Kick was necessary, just finish the dungeon and move on.

Lack of communication is why you got kicked. You should have asked for bigger pulls. Did you ask? Probably not. Just ask next time. If they say no? Leave or grit your teeth (not really; that's bad for your teeth) and put up with the pace. Not everyone is competent at doing big pulls even though they should at that level.

[Vickii]

I feel bad but I left a dungeon (I never do) this evening.

I queued as Astro for what I thought was trial at 11pm and I accidentally had clicked levelling. I haven’t really played Astro in a few weeks so I hopes for something chilled and I got Doma castle.

We got passed first trash wave and i was constantly spamming heal on the tank and it just felt off. Tank then pulls the big guy and the second lot of trash. I topped him up to start with, used nocturnal aspected benefic on him then I took my eye off his bar to move out of an aoe, drew a card tank is dead. And I just don’t have time for this so I quit.

If you can not allow me one GCD without healing you, then please don’t pull more than you can handle. It’s not fun. I had a tank in Doma castle yesterday who pulled exactly the same and barely lost health, so it’s not me it’s you.

[Vickii]

I feel bad but I left a dungeon (I never do) this evening.

I queued as Astro for what I thought was trial at 11pm and I accidentally had clicked levelling. I haven’t really played Astro in a few weeks so I hopes for something chilled and I got Doma castle.

We got passed first trash wave and i was constantly spamming heal on the tank and it just felt off. Too much damage, either gear or mitigation wasn’t right. Tank then pulls the big guy and the second lot of trash. I topped him up to start with, used aspected benefic on him then I took my eye off his bar to move out of an aoe, drew a card tank is dead. And I just don’t have time for this so I quit.

If you can not allow me one GCD without healing you, then please don’t pull more than you can handle. It’s not fun. I had a tank in Doma castle yesterday who pulled exactly the same and barely lost health, so it’s not me it’s you.

[Zeich]

Bit of a positive tale tonight!

Doing my roulettes, end up in Castrum Abania as WHM. Okay, not so ba- oh dear, tank is in Shire gear. Not terribly much more HP than I have. Okay! I got this. Maybe. All three are sprouts and (as I found out at the end), it was the first time for all three. I knew 2/3 were, but the third hadn't said. H'okay, put on my teaching cap, suggested that simply due to the jump in difficulty and Shire gear that we stick to single pulls. Went well enough for the most part - I had to babysit the tank's HP a bit, but they were using cooldowns and I did get a little offense in, so it was overall fairly comfortable. First boss went by without much to speak of, minus aiming at the boss with cannons being a bit tricky for folks, but we got it down!

Second boss it got a little ugly - I had given advance warning on the elements and watching for them, but what I hadn't counted on was that our tank was not taking the Stab busters very well. By "not very well" I mean "if you're not topped off you're dead or at next to nonexistent HP" kinda not very well. We missed one tower, and for the first time I got to see how bad the Overflow was if you didn't. XD Tank went down a few times, and never swapped elements (went straight to engaging, and got reflected to death repeatedly), but me, the SAM, and the BRD managed to keep up to some extent and we cleared it. Fortunately, this was the worst part of the run, and even then, it wasn't terrible!

And surprisingly, last boss went super well - we did have one death due to me missing a hand and getting grabbed (just in time for Ketu Blade and its potent bleed to murder our GNB), but otherwise super smooth. Everyone was super chill about the run, everyone listened and accepted advice the few times it was needed (and that was mostly boss mechanics, everyone was playing fairly well!). For what I expected to be a nightmare going in, it turned out to be quite pleasant and relaxing even with the extra healing effort.

[Frizze]

At that point it was definitely petty of them to kick you. However, you probably should have just gone with the flow to begin with. Sometimes things just aren't going to go as fast as you want. Should they have gone faster? The community standard says "emphatically yes", but that isn't up to you. The DF is full of random people so...take what you get or leave if you don't like what you get. So yeah, while I do believe that the kick was unnecessary (at that point) it was also something you probably had coming. A couple of things I've learned through the years are these...

Fixed that for you Vahlnir. Hyperius, you hurt your tanks feelings. And the punishment for hurting the feelings of a tank is DEATH... of your run. Some of them would additionally ban you from the game for life, but luckily they dont have that kinda power yet. You are a DPS, so your job is to stand in line and go "pew pew pew bad guys die". If you arent able to stay in line, you arent needed because the tank can "pew pew" too(and he probly thinks hes better at it then you are anyway).

[Shahi]

Puppet's bunker, last boss around 25% hp and only 5 ppl alive. The 2 healers started to res the bards, then dnc, blm. They died right after res and the healers start to res them again... BUT there was a rdm in the party, whyyyy not res him??? Somehow we didn't wipe but it's just weird. Lvl 80 content, not newbie stuff, healers should know that rdm can help with res... as he did before, didn't even die as much as others in the party so why they ignored him totally? Oh and the ast was giving all cards to the tank... like wtf is wrong with healers lately? Especially ast who have no idea how to use the cards. I run into them everyday.

[Vahlnir]

Fixed that for you Vahlnir. Hyperius, you hurt your tanks feelings. And the punishment for hurting the feelings of a tank is DEATH... of your run. Some of them would additionally ban you from the game for life, but luckily they dont have that kinda power yet. You are a DPS, so your job is to stand in line and go "pew pew pew bad guys die". If you arent able to stay in line, you arent needed because the tank can "pew pew" too(and he probly thinks hes better at it then you are anyway).

Not really sure what your goal was here, but you do you.

[Packetdancer]

So, grinding Heroes' Gauntlet for the Casting Body(does this even exist...? almost 75+ runs and no drop of it still)

According to my exhaustive, serious-and-not-sarcastic analysis of the totally-legitimate-and-not-at-all-anecdotal data I've collected, the drop rate on chest pieces in that dungeon is, to put it in mathematically precise terms, "extremely likely for whatever you're not playing, but if you're on the job that could Need it and actually want the piece, the drop rate is roughly equivalent to the likelihood of seeing Halley's Comet pass beneath a double rainbow while you're riding a unicorn".