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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearded View Post
    In all honesty the issues plaguing the forums are threads like this. The game's fine.
    Posts like this are definitely an issue.

    I'm against posts like "SE sucks, worst devs ever y so incompetent", that doesn't help anything, but constructive negative feedback and suggestions are absolutely vital to any game and this community goes out of its way to resist it. Most of us who complain actually love the game, that's why we play it and that's why we want to see it to continue improving and become even greater. No game developer ever has the opinion "our game is perfect, stop whining and play something else if you don't like it", so posters spouting nonsense like that thinking they're "defending" the game are actually a big thorn in the side.

    It's important to be polite and constructive but also worth voicing your opinion when dissatisfied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Posts like this are definitely an issue.

    I'm against posts like "SE sucks, worst devs ever y so incompetent", that doesn't help anything, but constructive negative feedback and suggestions are absolutely vital to any game and this community goes out of its way to resist it. Most of us who complain actually love the game, that's why we play it and that's why we want to see it to continue improving and become even greater. No game developer ever has the opinion "our game is perfect, stop whining and play something else if you don't like it", so posters spouting nonsense like that thinking they're "defending" the game are actually a big thorn in the side.

    It's important to be polite and constructive but also worth voicing your opinion when dissatisfied.
    There are already a million threads on every single gripe in this thread. It does not need to be brought up again and again until the children get their way. This is not how life works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    There are already a million threads on every single gripe in this thread. It does not need to be brought up again and again until the children get their way. This is not how life works.
    See, that's the crux.

    Take Liam, for example. How do you think he imagines the point of those threads? I mean, he (perhaps naively) believes there is some favorable outcome, not through the devs but through the course of a thread itself, that can be constructively moved towards.

    Now take yours. Here, you reduce threads to one-way communication, complaints made as if directly to the devs with the expectation of being pandered to.

    When people believe that there are issues underlying our surface irritations (X is bad; Y is dumb; Z is overpowered) that can be untangled and either resolved or more usefully defined, threads have a point. Without that though, the OF are of course useless and would probably be more usefully relegated to Instagram, r/ffxivshitpost, Dungeoneers Anonymous, or the like.
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