SMN Why don't we hear about egi glamours anymore?

[Atamis]

Once again, it's way, way too late to drastically remove/phase them out at this point.
It'd be like removing the faeries from Scholars or the turret/automaton from Machinists (also integral parts of their identities/lore).

Besides, each game has a different take on a given job.
And in FF14's case in particular, this is what we got for SMN.

Adding more Trances/Demis? That's fair game.
Removing Egis out of existence? Not happening.

Absolutly none of that needs to matter. It is a video game. they can change data at will and retcon events. They've done it before. They phased out the mch turret just fine. Its still there in essence, but requires none of the babysitting it used to require. its just a stationary automaton queen, in fact they completely removed the bishop turret.

And yes every game has had some quirk on the summoner. but XIV has yet to even get a summon to make that quirk. Its been ruins, and bios, and auto attacking chicken nuggets until they started doing trances. Now we can get to the XIV version of a summoner. Egis are a failed experiment at making a summoner. Maybe it could of worked better than XIs, but this AI and the server authentication make it extremely unreliable and clunky.

Egis no longer serve their intended purposes. We should not keep kicking that can down the road promising this time will be different. If the lore is the restriction change it or move on in the lore. They can easily have Y'mhitra have new quests where she says this egi thing isn't working out and we can abandoned it in favor of better solutions. If having *A* pet is such a big deal you can easily keep a carbuncle and give it taunt so it can actually do something useful. It needs do nothing more to be better than the current Egis.

[Exodus-E]

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I dunno about you, but I think we are way, way overdue on a dev' (or even Yoshida himself) commenting here on what's next regarding SMN, and more importantly, its Egis.
Because as it stands, we're just arguing in circles.

You want the Egis gone, while I want them to stay (adding more of them, even).
And it seems our opinions on the matter will not change unless someone at the top has anything to say about it.

(and for the record, they did various tweaks/adjustments to Egis in ShB to make them behave and "feel" better; so what makes you think they can't do so again further down the line?)

[HeulGDarian]

I dunno about you, but we are way, way overdue on a dev' (or even Yoshida himself) commenting here on what's next regarding SMN, and more importantly, its Egis.
Because as it stands, we're just arguing in circles.

You want the Egis gone, while I want them to stay (adding more of them, even).
And it seems our opinions on the matter will not change unless someone at the top has anything to say about it.

(and for the record, they did various tweaks/adjustments to Egis in ShB to make them behave and "feel" better; so what makes you think they can't do so again further down the line?)

If you want a confirmation , then the whole 5.3 story line should count for that. Eldibus himself says that creation magic is indeed what we know as summoning magic, meaning all the theories and knowledge of how to summon are now confirmed, the devs on one of their story have said it can do everything except summon a soul, on another explained how miasma works , ehmets ghosts cast ruin, and even the dungeon has ink mages be both summoner and scholars by casting broil 2 and ruin 3 and get this , the broil 2 attacks name is absolute ruin 3.
So unless they want to make smn a massive plothole , the only possible thing they can do is rework how egi works. it is safe to assume they have decided at least thematicly that smn stays as is.