PSA: Provoke and You.

[Aurelius2625]

OP and many people are just wrong.

Provoke ADDS enmity, a certain amount of threat on top of what the top target already has. This is multiplied by tank stance.

Tank stance adds a factor of 10 to all potency generated, and adds that as threat. So a 500 potency move under tank stance does 5000 enmity points worth of threat.

Provoke adds around 450k points of threat under tank stance, about 45k points of enmity without tank stance. That's why when you voke with no tank stance, the other tank, in stance, rips it back, or why a dps would rip if you voked with no tank stance at the start.

In Shiva Savage, she resets enmity in phase 2. It's absolutely necessary to use voke there and it shows clearly that it does add threat, otherwise dps jobs would rip from the tank pretty quickly.

So you actually CAN pull with provoke now, in tank stance. It adds a huge number of threat points on top of w/e the top aggro holder has.

[SnowVix]

In Shiva Savage, she resets enmity in phase 2. It's absolutely necessary to use voke there and it shows clearly that it does add threat, otherwise dps jobs would rip from the tank pretty quickly.

So you actually CAN pull with provoke now, in tank stance. It adds a huge number of threat points on top of w/e the top aggro holder has.

no, eden 8 savage does not reset threat after adds.

Edit: the reason you see shirks and vokes there is either due to a tank death (which does reset that tank's enmity) or due to the gap between tanks being too small for comfort due to the way Akh Morn works there and the differing damage between tank openers.