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    Aurelius2625's Avatar
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EmmetOtter View Post
    Since you have explicitly asked for advice I will provide some.
    1. Never, and I mean never, put your advice into public/group/alliance chat. That will always be public shaming. Praise someone in public. Punish in private. Either privately whisper the other player or send him a mail later.
    2. Always give advice when you and the other person are calm. Attempting to give advice during the "heat of the moment" when your and their stress and frustration are running high will either result you in framing your words very badly and/or having your words received very badly.
    How about no? It's not "Shaming" it's "we literally won't clear this if you keep doing these things".

    Dude, grow up. Be an adult. Be a man/woman. If you are PLAYING WRONG in a TEAM GAME and your TEAM needs you to DO BETTER and someone is TELLING YOU HOW, you should do that.

    It's not SHAMING. Public shaming by telling you how to dps/heal/tank? No. Absolutely not. That's not shaming. That's giving advice.

    "Hey moron, do this instead you brainlet" is toxic.... "Hey man, use one tank cooldown per pull, and if the mobs are still alive, use reprisal or arms length when they are up, or your personal cooldown" is NOT SHAMING.

    Have skin that is thicker than wet tissue. There are people who will tell me what I am doing wrong, it's okay. I usually read and ask questions in The Balance discord so I'm usually at the top of my game anyways...but for specific things I will ask or be told about.
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    Eriane_Elis's Avatar
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    Eriane Elis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius2625 View Post
    How about no? It's not "Shaming" it's "we literally won't clear this if you keep doing these things".

    Dude, grow up. Be an adult. Be a man/woman. If you are PLAYING WRONG in a TEAM GAME and your TEAM needs you to DO BETTER and someone is TELLING YOU HOW, you should do that.

    It's not SHAMING. Public shaming by telling you how to dps/heal/tank? No. Absolutely not. That's not shaming. That's giving advice.

    "Hey moron, do this instead you brainlet" is toxic.... "Hey man, use one tank cooldown per pull, and if the mobs are still alive, use reprisal or arms length when they are up, or your personal cooldown" is NOT SHAMING.

    Have skin that is thicker than wet tissue. There are people who will tell me what I am doing wrong, it's okay. I usually read and ask questions in The Balance discord so I'm usually at the top of my game anyways...but for specific things I will ask or be told about.
    Everything you said is correct. But, SE is getting scared, same with Blizzard with how the minority of Karens that exist have screechingly loud voices. It only takes 1 Karen to go to the media with a twisted view about how a game is creating toxic people or is racist, or is whatever other -ist there is. Blizzard removed the "b" word (might get banned for saying here) because they claim it's offensive. Huh? SE is trying to make FF14 a "safe place" to play the game but it continues to promote the ideology that people are too fragile to accept a criticism or voice for improvement. IMO they should grow some skin because it will continue to trickle down until at some point we will have only 1 emote to communicate with each other and it's a heart emote and maybe then, it might be removed given enough time.
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