Really hope next savage tier is delayed.

[Barraind]

I'm sure there's people that didn't want the new Ishgard and Relic content delayed either but here we are.

Yes, delaying content IS continually one of the worst decisions squeenix makes for gameplay pacing.

That they haven't yet learned to put the grindiest relic/diadem/eureka/ect steps in the .05 and .25 patches (instead stuffing them more than a full cycle later) is telling.

[linayar]

You mean it basically helping DF players and giving everybody a fair chance at the world race? Yeah.
Better than your squares into circle replies.
"Don't rush!" Top tier counter reply.

What DF players? Do you mean PF? Are they serious contenders at world first? Either way, the world first race is not an official part of the game. In terms of the contents of the game, everyone already has a fair chance at them. People may have different priorities, desires, and schedules, but unlike limited-time events, both the raids and the story quests will be there for them to do when they want/can.

The dev team has changed a lot of things in the past that have been in place for years before they changed it.
Remember how gear in savage dropped a random piece? Well now its coffers so it comes out the job you opened it with.
Remember how we didn't have pages and can go months with no loot because you keep losing you roll? Well now we have the pages to fix that.
The devs can change their pattern or how stuff works, don't act like they haven't before.

I repeat: It is never my argument that they cannot change. But until they do, I will assume they will follow established patterns. It's one thing if there is no established pattern, but that's not the case here.

Well, obviously. The point of OP's post is wanting SE to make the change, which they have the power to do since they're not above doing it for other content already.

Going 'oh well they won't do it because patch history' is a dumb argument because they've already shown a history of changing up things despite previous patch cycle history, from tomes, crafted gear strength, raid drops, and so on. Whether it happens or not, to outright rule out the possibility is foolish.

No it's not. For as much change FFXIV has gone through, it is also well known that FFXIV likes to keep to a pattern.

I'm sure there's people that didn't want the new Ishgard and Relic content delayed either but here we are.

Again, irrelevant because those also fit their own patterns.

[xxvaynxx]

If I wasn't already against your idea, this post would have put me against it on presentation alone. The moment you attack someone is the moment you lose an argument. Makes that whole "just admit you lost" bit kinda funny.

If it was just attacks alone I would agree.
The "just admit you lost" is pretty funny though. Imagine saying the devs don't change patterns when they have more than once through out the games life span.
Actually...maybe they didn't! are we still getting three dungeons???

[xxvaynxx]

Almost as funny is imagining someone wanting the raid tier delayed for everyone due to the inability to find 2 extra hours to watch cutscenes pre-raid, amiright?

Its not just about skipping the CS if you actually read my post and others, Which you probably didn't which is clear since you seem hyper focused on thinking its about skipping the CS and people having bad schedules.
But hey, w/e makes you feel better to think you gained a foothold in this argument.
Its about getting prepared for savage as well, which benefits everybody.
Which I repeat, helps more people that are PF warriors due to more people having decent enough gear to at least get through the first floor and gives people that are broke, a fighting chance to compete in the WR if they choose to since they had a week to craft or gather gil to buy supplies and whatnot.

But ofc, its only about skipping the story to you, amiright?? Man...who would have thought!

So again...tell me why delaying savage is a bad thing? still waiting for a good reason.

[xxvaynxx]

And if YOU bothered to read MY post, you'd realize that my biggest issue was the time off requests real world prog players need to make in advance, which would need to be changed with little notice, causing said world prog players to miss a tier's race, and for... What? So crafters get screwed out of profits because no raider in their right mind will be buying day 1 of a delayed patch? Because, outside of either making yourself crafted or watching the story, there is literally no other prep work for a savage tier.

There are literally no upsides to your idea outside of some ill conceived notion that some players need to "rush" to do the prep work pre-savage. In all the world prog groups I've been in, a "rush" has never been an issue. I

'd love to verify your status as someone who does Savage day 1 of release. Who do you run with? I know Crystal isn't know for its raid scene, so there can't be too many groups.

Dude...obviously if they were gonna delay savage they'll tell us before hand.
you really think they'll just randomly drop a bomb right before 5.4 is about to release saying oh btw, savage is delayed
That is a weak ass argument.
And crafters are not gonna be screwed out of profit, ONCE AGAIN. The crafted items would be available or rather should be as the point of wanting to delay savage is to do other content and prepare.
Why wouldn't they buy day one 1 or 2? there wouldn't be a point in waiting and not like the price is gonna drop in the coming weeks.
I'm not sure why people are thinking they'll just not giving out the mats or worst, not uncap the 5.2 tomes when the ilv increased.
Just using whatever excuse you have, and not a good one.

And I pointed out the upsides and not gonna repeat it. If you don't think its a upside that's on you.
And crystal has a lot of raiders actually, how do you know crystal situation if you never bothered to look in the outside sources and its funny you talk about verifying status when you're scary ass is using an alt to post on the fourms to not reveal your main, scared form the heat you might get in-game? Don't talk about verifying.

[HeulGDarian]

Dude...obviously if they were gonna delay savage they'll tell us before hand.
you really think they'll just randomly drop a bomb right before 5.4 is about to release saying oh btw, savage is delayed
That is a weak ass argument.
And crafters are not gonna be screwed out of profit, ONCE AGAIN. The crafted items would be available or rather should be as the point of wanting to delay savage is to do other content and prepare.
I'm not sure why people are thinking they'll just not giving out the mats or worst, not uncap the 5.2 tomes when the ilv increased.
Just using whatever excuse you have, and not a good one.

And I pointed out the upsides and not gonna repeat it. If you don't think its a upside that's on you.
And crystal has a lot of raiders actually, how do you know crystal situation if you never bothered to look in the outside sources and its funny you talk about verifying status when you're scary ass is using an alt to post on the fourms to not reveal your main, scared form the heat you might get in-game? Don't talk about verifying.

Ok hang on , subject aside , are you seriously insinuating that if he did use his main char he would be getting heat? by who? you, or your mates? is that threat?

[xxvaynxx]

Another armchair raider wanting changes to the scene that don't actually impact them. How cute. How much the TEA clear cost ya?

Probably as much as you spent on that level boosted alt you're posting on.(that's not the tea title btw).
and I can say the same for you, another armchair dip not having a good reason to why the delay is a bad thing.
And I'm not changing the scene, how is wanting a simple week delay a change in the scene? at leas the way I see it, changing the scene would probably be like the difficulty or something.

A lot of people want this, there as a thread same as mine with almost 100 likes that came out right after verse came out..or before, and that's a lot considering lots of raiders avoid the forums like a plague.
Still small sure compared to the massive amount of players but its a good general idea.

[xxvaynxx]

When you can't win an argument, or don't want to address it because you know it means you'll lose, you attack your opponent's character instead of their argument. I'm willing to bet they would find me in game if given the option. I do have a house and I've received... some interesting entries into my log book before. Especially when I went after Real world t- ahem, housing enthusiasts.





Ah,my mistake. You went with the cheaper one. Economically minded, huh? Kudos!

Look dude. Literally no one significant, and I mean NO ONE, in the raiding scene wants savage delayed. Matter of fact, most of us want MORE savage content. They don't feel a rush. That's why I asked who you run with. To confirm if you'd even be impacted by this and to confirm who you run with.

I'd use your logs to confirm, but those are currently hidden. Wonder why. =)
Edit: I found them via their guild. I'm just that invested. You are not a day 1 level player, according to what I've found. You are NOT impacted by your own suggestion. If I knew I wouldn't get banned for posting the logs, I would. You are NOT part of the raiding scene that would be impacted. Not even close.

Mr.happy wants it delayed I know that and he's very significant.
And I'll use your logs but you're using an alt to post. Wonder why =)
and you're right, I'll love more savage content, seem you got one thing right!
and why the heck would you knowing who I run with even be a factor? Didn't realize I had to be running with certain people to be qualified. Its quite funny how you talk about me wanting to find you if I could and you want to see my whole static. Like the pot calling the kettle black, numnuts.
Kudos!
Please post the link of the fc you found c:

[xxvaynxx]

I think using Mr. Happy as an example just hurts your argument. But, like my edit said, you're not part of the group that's impacted by your own idea. And low blue level players generally aren't good enough to do ultimates. The puzzle has fallen together.

Post the fc you found, go ahead. It's not against the rules to do that.
And you can hate on mr.happy because it's the cool thing to do but he's way better than you and actually is a somebody in the community unlike you.

[EaMett]

A redesign of patch releases to allow for an extra week to sort your crafted gear and consumables would be nice. They could just release that a week ahead of the patch or something. There isn't really anything keeping them from doing it.
I always end up taking my day off to sort it all before raid night but honestly I could do without, and not everyone has the option of taking a day off either.
Dunno, doesn't seem like an outlandish change/request.