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    Wyakin Cade
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    What I'd like to see is Bard going more 50/50 on the archery vs music aspect as opposed to 80/20. Make Wanderer's Minuet the archery song similar to where it currently is--all about that bow. Adjust Mage's Ballad slightly so that Burst Shot, Bloodletter, Quick Nook, and Rain of Death transform into musical attacks since Mage's Ballad implies some kind of magical stance. This is the true-to-its-name bard phase where you're mostly using music to attack. Give each phase something that each side of the bard playerbase can really sink their teeth into, a massive archery finisher for Wanderer's Minuet and a massive musical finisher for Mage's Ballad
    You see there’s the issue, It’s a dps first and a support second. The majority of people who play dps don’t want to see a lot of effort for minimal dps... unfortunately your 50/50 idea would do that. Once upon a time bard was an archer that sung song, now it’s not... I don’t know what it is but the songs are basically just... there.
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    You see there’s the issue, It’s a dps first and a support second. The majority of people who play dps don’t want to see a lot of effort for minimal dps... unfortunately your 50/50 idea would do that. Once upon a time bard was an archer that sung song, now it’s not... I don’t know what it is but the songs are basically just... there.
    The popularity of Dnc even though it's got the lowest personal DPS of any DPS job and much of it's identity is "do Dances to buff others" kinda proves people are more than willing to be supportive.

    Brd's problem is partly that it's no where near as supportive as Dnc but doesn't do the personal DPS of Mch and requires more thought than Mch. It's very much "master of none". So IMO they can either try to make it as supportive focused as Dnc (reasonable. Right now at top levels of play Dnc's "rDPS" is the highest of the Ranged and unless there's adjustments that gap is only gonna grow later in the expac ... this supportive tax on personal DPS for the impressive RDPS numbers can prove to be the keystone to ranged. Outside of Sam all Melees have some kinda unique yet strong supportive traits/ skills and the same can be said for the casters other than Blm so why not lean into the supportive side?) or just give it's support a bit more love along with increased personal damage to rival Mch.

    Anyway, my idea for ranged DPS in 6.0 is to give them all some version of Dnc's movement skill and make a few distance based attacks that work like positions.
    As for Brd? I'd love for the job to feel as supportive as Dnc and have more burst in it's kit. Support that you can really feel in the party and a burst window that feels exciting.
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    Rai_Takara's Avatar
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    Rai Nagisei
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    The popularity of Dnc even though it's got the lowest personal DPS of any DPS job and much of it's identity is "do Dances to buff others" kinda proves people are more than willing to be supportive.
    I'd like to also mention some of the appeal there could be there glam and aesthetic as well as accessibility. It's the only job that can easily appeal to the less is more when it comes to clothing, if you catch my drift lol.
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    You see there’s the issue, It’s a dps first and a support second. The majority of people who play dps don’t want to see a lot of effort for minimal dps... unfortunately your 50/50 idea would do that. Once upon a time bard was an archer that sung song, now it’s not... I don’t know what it is but the songs are basically just... there.
    Well, actually, I said nothing about the 50/50 being DPS and support. I was saying that in reference to their use of musical animations. Music isn't exclusively supportive, you know. There are bards in Final Fantasy lore that use music to attack enemies. Case and point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMf6NdM55ws

    This is kinda what I'd like to see Mage's Ballad become: a music-heavy phase with damaging songs while Wanderer's stays the archery-heavy phase, and perhaps Army's is what pics up more support elements while using a little of both archery and music.
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