Fairy Glamour

[HeulGDarian]

Well shit
There is nothing else in the Sch questline, there is one more thing alka zolka says during the third ? sch quest of he concludes all the fairies are individuals but thats basicly what he says on what mhaeric linked
What i linked was told by Surito so ehhhhh?

Idk maybe the intent was to have you summon otherworldy creatures but Surito proves my point. Soooo i guess unless i find something somewhere else or if SE ties the loose ends of scholar you can choose whichever?

[HeulGDarian]

I believe the gemstone you're referring to is indeed a crystal core found within a statue embedded with white magic; that is not the soulstone you carry that once belonged to Surito. Your soulstone is not recovered from a statue, but from stolen artifacts purchased by Alka Zolka (the marauder that serves as your quest NPC) long before even meeting Surito.

Going back through my journal, Alka concludes the 'otherworldly being' that you can call forth at will has actually been in slumber for 1500 summers, and you are tasked with taking her to several locations to essentially help wake her up as the locations should stir her memory. After this is done and as a result of these interactions around La Noscea, Alka is later able to conclude (not surmise mind you) that for some reason he cannot explain, your faerie indeed has its owns thoughts, feelings, and memories.

In the next quest Lily, on her own accord, actually stops Alka from delivering the killing blow to a Tonberry that has appeared. It is at this point that Alka is aware that even though your Faerie is a sentient being of her own volition, she still obeys the commands of her summoner and bids we become more practiced in doing so. However, it isn't until the end of this questline when the same tonberry appears in the Wanderer's Palace that Alka realizes that this tonberry that Lily keeps stopping him from killing is Surito Carito; Lily's former master. Recognized by her despite his altered appearance.

I honestly don't know how much more you need than that to know that Lily is as to an Egi, as night is to day. She is quite possibly even more alive than the SCH she belongs to.

im not saying the gem is the soulstone , i just didnt want to put the thing mentioned without context. The soulstone mentioned is what we found in a chest with her father clothes and grimoire where setoto tries to summon it but performs a partial summon so she spends all her aether and falls down. Its a soul crystal of another scholar that scholar being setotos father, If the fairy in there is part of setotos fathers consciousness , why would ours be different. That was my point


I keeps searching cause what alka says contradicts Setotos words .

[Gemina]

Well shit
There is nothing else in the Sch questline, there is one more thing alka zolka says during the third ? sch quest of he concludes all the fairies are individuals but thats basicly what he says on what mhaeric linked
What i linked was told by Surito so ehhhhh?

Idk maybe the intent was to have you summon otherworldy creatures but Surito proves my point. Soooo i guess unless i find something somewhere else or if SE ties the loose ends of scholar you can choose whichever?

No. It's canon that Lily is her own entity that resides within the soulstone we carry. She is given form using our own aether which is similar to Egis, but Egis are not an entity. They are simply the essence of a primal given form and wielded like a weapon by the SMN. You can interpret this differently, but you would be doing it incorrectly.

[Mhaeric]

If it helps, the fairies do gain the memories and knowledge of all the past owners presumably because they're part of the soul stone and the fairies are so intimately linked with it. This is likely what Alka was referring to when mentioning that Lilac's partially formed summon was part of her previous owner's concioussness. His conciousness is imprinted on Lilac's soul stone and so Lilac has those same memories and knowledge. The same is happening with us and Lily as our souls become imprinted on our soul stone.

[HeulGDarian]

Found it , it seems im wrong what the journal says is not nearly as close as what Setoto says in his dialog. He basicly says that it was just a mass of aether but it still had aether from setotos father so maybe his will was strong that it led us there. I could make an arguement hey we know more and thats why journal is like that but no thats way unlikely.

So what exactly is the creature that summons fairy O.o
And i dont mean the soulstone

[Gemina]

Found it , it seems im wrong what the journal says is not nearly as close as what Setoto says in his dialog. He basicly says that it was just a mass of aether but it still had aether from setotos father so maybe his will was strong that it led us there. I could make an arguement hey we know more and thats why journal is like that but no thats way unlikely.

It's possible. In this particular portion of the questline, Alka is so relieved that Setoto is back on her feet, that he doesn't really pay a whole lot of mind to the why and how surrounding the behavior of Lilac. Not everything is understood about Nymians and the faeries that accompany the SCH soulstones, but it should at least be clear that they have a conscience.

[HeulGDarian]

It's possible. In this particular portion of the questline, Alka is so relieved that Setoto is back on her feet, that he doesn't really pay a whole lot of mind to the why and how surrounding the behavior of Lilac. Not everything is understood about Nymians and the faeries that accompany the SCH soulstones, but it should at least be clear that they have a conscience.

from what i understand its soul crystal has a fairy bound to it, and you just create a vessel for it to occupy. The vessels are arcanima though ,so i assume the fairy gives you the info since its linked to you.
I Do wonder what manner of creature the fairies are, They dont seem like elementals and most certaintly arent voidspawns

[Gemina]

from what i understand its soul crystal has a fairy bound to it, and you just create a vessel for it to occupy. The vessels are arcanima though ,so i assume the fairy gives you the info since its linked to you.
I Do wonder what manner of creature the fairies are, They dont seem like elementals and most certaintly arent voidspawns

It was first believed that they are bound to the soulstone, and they are in the sense that they cannot occupy another soulstone. However, with Lilac and Setoto's father, we discover that they are bound to the SCH as well, taking in the will of the SCH as their own. We also see this with Lily as she is no longer Surito's. She belongs to the WoL now

There is as much mystery with the faeries as there are with soulstones. We know how some things work but the nuts and bolts that make things turn is still to be discovered. The SCH soulstone provides the SCH access to ancient arcanima knowledge used by the Nymians (the adlos, succors, sacred soils etc.), but also the ability to call forth a familiar in the form of a faerie. It is interesting that you mention voidspawns because the Faeries are particularly adept at sensing and picking up traces of the voidsent. The Nymians, the faeries, Mhach; they are all linked. Perhaps in future questlines, they will explore this more.

[Seraphor]

So lore-wise, there is actually a reason why we cannot manipulate the appearance of Lily other than her color.

Is there any reason why Lily can't manipulate her own appearance?
Functionally we'd be applying the glamour, but lore-wise it can be explained as Lily evolving and choosing her own appearance.

I'd like a moogle form. Even if it's a sort of glowy aetherial faerie texture.

[Gemina]

Is there any reason why Lily can't manipulate her own appearance?
Functionally we'd be applying the glamour, but lore-wise it can be explained as Lily evolving and choosing her own appearance.

I'd like a moogle form. Even if it's a sort of glowy aetherial faerie texture.

For that, I would like the lore to get more into Seraph. In ARR, they went more in depth with our abilities, and they have really fallen off with that with each expansion much to my chagrin. In short, we don't know if Lily can't manipulate her appearance. She very well can, and she just needs to learn it. Because of that they would be able to introduce fairy glamour in very much the same way they did with the egis, and we learn how to do it as a result of becoming more acquainted with our soulstone. Though I think the way they would do is through Lily accessing more of her memories.

I am really hoping that they do something with this sometime in the very near future. I think it would be neat that as SCH, Feo Ul would want to meet Lily and that starts the questline to make things happen. Not saying that pixies would be the glamour, but through them, they could shape things in a way that Lily accesses more of her memories.