BYE FC Exclusivity for this round. New housing Indo.

[SXTC]

I made a topic based on what I read in this topic. Because in a way people do have a point when they talk about discrimination.
Guess I simply didn't think it through before posting my last reply.
Find the topic and let me know what you think in it.

[Jojoya]

30% is not huge.

30% is also not huge when you realize that FC homes are meant to service more than one person. If you believe all 30% of those houses to be single owners, then that's hugely unreasonable.

The question is how many FC houses are servicing only one person (even if that person has multiple characters in the FC).

And I doubt anyone thinks that every FC house is for a single person. But certainly there are a large number of FC houses that are that way. I saw several last fall when I was doing a world wide census. It would be interesting to see how many of them remain that way. If players had some concrete data about membership of FCs with houses, it could silence most of the concerns - or increase them.

[PewPewPewPewPew]

The question is how many FC houses are servicing only one person (even if that person has multiple characters in the FC).

And I doubt anyone thinks that every FC house is for a single person. But certainly there are a large number of FC houses that are that way. I saw several last fall when I was doing a world wide census. It would be interesting to see how many of them remain that way. If players had some concrete data about membership of FCs with houses, it could silence most of the concerns - or increase them.

Based on the data mass extracted by Mew directly from the lodestone for August 2020:

Single ownership FC houses with plots make up 7,390 total plots out of 107,092 total plots owned by FCs across all worlds (which is 30% of all houses available in the entire world).
That means only 7% of all existing FC owned plots are single-owner FC plots. At the same time, single owner FC plots make up 2% of all 342,720 plots across all worlds.

If we expand and look at that same data for FCs with 1-3 people total, the total number of FC's with a roster ranging from 1 to 3 people make up 21,209 FCs that hold plots.
That means just under 20% of all existing FC owned plots are owned by FCs with a roster of 1-3 characters. Meaning FCs with a roster of 1-3 characters make up only 6% of all 342,720 plots across all worlds.

Conclusion: These numbers show that shell FCs are too insignificant to be a leading cause of housing shortages. This data was extracted directly from lodestone as of last month.

[Barraind]

I find it interesting that people think when an FC wants a house, it's obviously because they want to use it to ... use FC facilities

Yes, why would people want a FC house to use the things you can ONLY do in an FC house?

[MorionQ]

I find it interesting that people think when an FC wants a house, it's obviously because they want to use it to entertain others, use FC facilities, and generally be Upstanding Citizens. But someone wants a private house? Well, they just plan to leave it empty anyway. What a waste.

Just that black and white thinking at it again.

You’re right, but my understanding was always that FC’s were favored just based on the fact it gives access to so many housing exclusive things to many/many players verses solo homes mostly being for personal glamour.... thus the addition of Private Quarters and Apartments.

I can’t help but wonder if the devs are baffled by how unpopular apartments are when people literally break their hands or bot trying to farm open ready to open plots when the biggest loss is gardening.

[PewPewPewPewPew]

You’re right, but my understanding was always that FC’s were favored just based on the fact it gives access to so many housing exclusive things to many/many players verses solo homes mostly being for personal glamour.... thus the addition of Private Quarters and Apartments.

I can’t help but wonder if the devs are baffled by how unpopular apartments are when people literally break their hands or bot trying to farm open ready to open plots when the biggest loss is gardening.

Apartments are not unpopular. Depending on the server and region, some apartment wards are completely maxed out.

[Arielen]

Apartments are not unpopular. Depending on the server and region, some apartment wards are completely maxed out.

I find it hard to gauge. On one hand, yes, some apartment wards are totally maxed out. On the other hand, there's no way to measure if they're used or not because apartment purchases are one-offs and they're never demoed, so a lot of inactive players who haven't been subbed in a few years still have their apartments.

[PewPewPewPewPew]

I find it hard to gauge. On one hand, yes, some apartment wards are totally maxed out. On the other hand, there's no way to measure if they're used or not because apartment purchases are one-offs and they're never demoed, so a lot of inactive players who haven't been subbed in a few years still have their apartments.

Totally valid point, also no way to see the purchase % per population based on lodestone since those purchases do not show up anywhere on a profile.

[SXTC]

lol made a topic about this and got attacked by people who all seem to have a 3-10 player FC... XD
Not everyone cares to entertain Doozer... For most its simply about the benefits and the fact that they'll get a house faster.

[Penthea]

lol made a topic about this and got attacked by people who all seem to have a 3-10 player FC... XD

I would like to know how you came to the conclusion that I have a 3 - 10 player fc when the lodestone clearly shows this. Are you unable to count?