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  1. #28861
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Vancouver, BC
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by AduroT View Post
    Did Yojimbo the other day for the first time, played Astrologian. That fight was a hectic mess and I feel like it went so poorly.
    That's pretty typical in there lol
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  2. #28862
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    Vyrerus's Avatar
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    The Interdimensional Rift
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Excalibur
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Y'all be twinsies.

    Working on Stormblood for my LP alt, at 4.3 and working through all the raids. Did Rabanastre and Ridorana yesterday. Rabanastre was uneventful, and it was even faster than average. Ridorana on the other hand took about as long as it did for a good party at release. Either newbies or trolls for the second boss kept turning the radial corner cleaves inwards on the party, killing many people. People with the slow/burn tethers kept dragging them through the entire raid. Gunbreaker in my party wanted to tank every and had a WHM sycophant backing him up. At the final boss, we got to adds and either the WHM's Medica II or his Aurora caused all adds to descend on them, tethering together. C got their add off, but A's tank was dead, so we wiped.

    Next go of it, the WHM got petrified and our other healer refused to heal the GNB, so the GNB died. So I tanked B add on SAM for over 2/3rds of its life thanks to Bloodbath. We cleared that time, but I saw a buncha people get shooed off the edge each Cyclone, so seems like a bunch were failing Magnetic Lysis. At least the Tide Pod guy and Math-Robot went fine.
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

  3. #28863
    Player
    tdb's Avatar
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Had a bit of an eccentric WHM in Heroes' Gauntlet. I was tanking on GNB. He was extremely damage-focused and my health routinely hovered below 50% during trash pulls. At one point when my HP dropped to around 10k I used Superbolide, and I think at the exact same moment he used Benediction, which was unfortunate but tends to happen in these situations. He asked me to "never loose my multi" and after asking for clarification I found out he meant using Superbolide. I told him I wouldn't need to use it if my HP wasn't so low. He commented that "if u don't die your HP can drop ^^". While that's technically true, I would feel safer and more confident if my HP stayed at least above half most of the time. He was quite polite in chat though and the only death was when the WHM himself failed some mechanic (no wipe, me and the dps finished it), so overall a pretty successful run. I just don't think that kind of tactics with letting the tank's HP drop are really appropriate in a roulette with a tank you don't know. When I'm healing I generally try to keep the tank's HP near full until the trash is nearly finished and it's evident the tank will survive without further heals.
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  4. #28864
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Ulala Ula
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    Had a bit of an eccentric WHM in Heroes' Gauntlet. I was tanking on GNB. He was extremely damage-focused and my health routinely hovered below 50% during trash pulls. At one point when my HP dropped to around 10k I used Superbolide, and I think at the exact same moment he used Benediction, which was unfortunate but tends to happen in these situations.
    Honestly i get why and its fine premade, but im gettin tired of savage healers pushing damage with their glare /we while half the party is sub 50% just bc theire too lazy for one aoe heal/regen/shield... On the 5.3 trial im at the point to vercure my self several times cause im gettin sick of dropping dead cause the healer didnt heal at all...
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  5. #28865
    Player HeulGDarian's Avatar
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    Heul Darian
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    Moogle
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Honestly i get why and its fine premade, but im gettin tired of savage healers pushing damage with their glare /we while half the party is sub 50% just bc theire too lazy for one aoe heal/regen/shield... On the 5.3 trial im at the point to vercure my self several times cause im gettin sick of dropping dead cause the healer didnt heal at all...
    savage healers dont push more dmg cause they are lazy =.="
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  6. #28866
    Player
    tdb's Avatar
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Honestly i get why and its fine premade, but im gettin tired of savage healers pushing damage with their glare /we while half the party is sub 50% just bc theire too lazy for one aoe heal/regen/shield... On the 5.3 trial im at the point to vercure my self several times cause im gettin sick of dropping dead cause the healer didnt heal at all...
    Yeah, if you're playing with people you know and trust, feel free to optimize to your heart's content. With randoms though? Better play it safe and throw in a couple of extra heals than risk a wipe.
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  7. #28867
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    Daibunnie's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Dainah Bunnie
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Honestly i get why and its fine premade, but im gettin tired of savage healers pushing damage with their glare /we while half the party is sub 50% just bc theire too lazy for one aoe heal/regen/shield... On the 5.3 trial im at the point to vercure my self several times cause im gettin sick of dropping dead cause the healer didnt heal at all...
    If people are dying from the lack of healing, call them out on it? Healers that only do their 2 button dps rotation aren't "savage healers" since those can usually do both efficiently.
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  8. #28868
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Jan 2018
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    Princess Whiskers
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    Had a bit of an eccentric WHM in Heroes' Gauntlet. I was tanking on GNB. He was extremely damage-focused and my health routinely hovered below 50% during trash pulls. At one point when my HP dropped to around 10k I used Superbolide, and I think at the exact same moment he used Benediction, which was unfortunate but tends to happen in these situations. He asked me to "never loose my multi" and after asking for clarification I found out he meant using Superbolide. I told him I wouldn't need to use it if my HP wasn't so low. He commented that "if u don't die your HP can drop ^^". While that's technically true, I would feel safer and more confident if my HP stayed at least above half most of the time. He was quite polite in chat though and the only death was when the WHM himself failed some mechanic (no wipe, me and the dps finished it), so overall a pretty successful run. I just don't think that kind of tactics with letting the tank's HP drop are really appropriate in a roulette with a tank you don't know. When I'm healing I generally try to keep the tank's HP near full until the trash is nearly finished and it's evident the tank will survive without further heals.
    Did you die? Nope. Then there's no problem. If you want a healer who will babysit your HP, get a healer friend and queue with them. In duty finder you're sometimes going to get skilled healers who don't heal more than necessary, it happens. Personally, when I tank, I regularly push myself and the healer to our limits. If I'm not dead, then I'm fine.
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  9. #28869
    Player
    Kanitezz's Avatar
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    Pool of Regret
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    Jubii Io
    World
    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Ran Puppets Bunker as a BLM. We load in, a few of is say hello and then the other BLM we had in the party asked me if I was there for the coat. They didnt even give me enough time to respond before they left the duty. I actually wasnt there for the coat. I was pretty much just there for fun...
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  10. #28870
    Player
    tdb's Avatar
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Did you die? Nope. Then there's no problem. If you want a healer who will babysit your HP, get a healer friend and queue with them. In duty finder you're sometimes going to get skilled healers who don't heal more than necessary, it happens. Personally, when I tank, I regularly push myself and the healer to our limits. If I'm not dead, then I'm fine.
    All right then, how do I tell it's a skilled healer who's about to Bene me from 10k to full health so I don't need to use Superbolide? This is DF so you pretty much have to assume no communication.
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