$35, really SE?

[linayar]

I shall no longer asks questions or voice my opinion.

You can still do that by not buying the mount. That tells SE loud and clear that the item they're selling is not worth it for you for the price they're asking. Just don't think that's how others should feel as well.

You're not making any argument here. You just have an opinion, and it's been clearly given. SE will take all the opinions it's received (just like with the Firmament titles) and act accordingly.

[Boa-Noah]

Where did you hear that WoW has free content? Requiring you to pay sub so you can play is not free, it's still paid...

You literally did not read my comment and it shows from this one sentence alone, the rest also reinforces that you didn't read what I wrote either but this one is the most clear cut example...

I did not say nor did I even imply that FFXIV needs the cash shop to survive, the sub costs alone cover it's survival and feedback into supporting ongoing content, they're not making the next story patch with nothing but cash shop money nor are they working on the next expansion SOLELY on cash shop money, but it does help significantly and it does fund further optional content. The whale mount was not made using money from the subscription fee, the new outfit was not made using money from the subscription fee, anything that's up in that store was pretty much entirely funded by cash shop purchases because that's the whole point, it feeds itself and dumps the rest into production so they can add more and do more with more money. The comparison to F2P titles is just an example of how significant a cash shop is for an MMO, I'd make a bet that the cash shop alone contributes at least 25% of the development budget, maybe less and maybe more, but that's a safe ballpark with whales around and the sheer amounts of money they throw around on purely optional content for themselves and friends.

I also didn't address the price of the mount beyond saying that if you feel like the price is too high you're more than welcome to complain about it, pricing is set by SE and SE is a soulless corporation that doesn't give a shit about you beyond your wallet, if you don't like the price feel free to say so and petition for it to change (it won't though) I don't care and never stated I do.

My issue is PURELY with people who think sub fees should cover all the content in the game including mogstation purchases, because that's not how the system works nor will it ever be how the system works, the only reason this mount is coming to the game is because people want it and the cash shop is pulling in metric boatloads of funding. Again, the cash shop supports itself and it feeds development, every penny earned on the shop goes right to the dev team rather than SE so of course they'll put shit in it for people to buy, it's just smart sensible business to do so but the pricing on those items isn't determined by them, SE manages that side of things and no doubt has advisors that sit in a room to haggle the price around to get the most out of it.

So maybe use a little reading comprehension, I don't know, something more than skimming a comment and coming to a drastically wrong conclusion about what the comment is actually saying.

[MsMisato]

You're right. I was wrong. I shall no longer asks questions or voice my opinion.

I shall just consume product and get excited for next product.

This is way it should be. Thanks for your patronage.

Signed,

SE

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

This is a false equivalence. Dining at such restaurants has different meanings behind them, since people do it for a wholly different reason (mostly for social status). And why are you comparing buying people spending thousands on PC parts annually to a mount?
With the PC parts you get the immediate and price worthy benefits from it, I have not yet seen that this mount has anything more than what the Fat Moogle mount has (no, 2 extra seats is not enough).

You say that, but my friend who bought the mount immediately got the worthy benefits he wanted from it. A friendly lore mount for his RP character, and a 4-seater to help ferry along his small friend group that's been playing together without having to do E4s. people who go to a restaurant and order expensive food are wasting money when they can always order the cheapest thing on the menu. People who update their computers every single time a new graphics card comes out, spend hundreds of extra dollars snazzing up their PC with lights, etc. are wasting money. People who buy anything from the mogstation are wasting money. The simple difference is that people value things differently. You don't see the value in the mount, many others do however.

What I am arguing is that having 36 dollars for a mount, that does not do anything special or give special features, is completely ridiculous. I would sound completely different if this mount had more to it be it a storyline, garage-like thing (think GTA).

You find it absurd, lets be clear on that. Value is inherently subjective. ForteNightShade has already gone into deep depth on it so I won't add much, as they took the words out of my mouth. The people who buy the mount look at the price, think about the benefits, and conclude the value of it is worth the price tag to them. Just because you don't have the same perception of value to them doesn't mean they're wrong or bootlicking.

Just like how one friend likes to teasingly say I'm wasting money on video games, I like to in turn teasingly say he's wasting money on cigarettes and alcohol. If you listed every single thing you spend your money on every month down to the last dollar, I could just as easily find something to tell you you're wasting your money on; yet you chose to spend it on that thing due to your own perceptions and enjoyments.

If the price of something is too high and Square sees decreased sales, they'll re-evaluate their price scheme on similar items. It's simple price vs demand, vote with your wallet and leave others who enjoy the mount to spend money on things they get value from.

[lolicon09]

You're right. I was wrong. I shall no longer asks questions or voice my opinion.

I shall just consume product and get excited for next product.

or just not buy what you don't want, maybe?

[Zukkii]

Going to buy some lootboxes next in Overwath. You guys are completely right. I hope they will also add them to FFXIV!

[Boa-Noah]

Going to buy some lootboxes next in Overwath. You guys are completely right. I hope they will also add them to FFXIV!

Literally no one is saying that, no one.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Going to buy some lootboxes next in Overwath. You guys are completely right. I hope they will also add them to FFXIV!

I think this is the textbook definition of burying your head in the sand and not listening to what people are actually saying.

[Zukkii]

I have listened. But till now I have yet to hear any good argument. My full argument is: This is too expensive for a bare basic mount, and this will set a precedent for other mounts to also be priced expensive.

I am simply mocking the "Value is subjective", it is subjective, yes. But I am saying that there should be objectively more value in an objectively higher priced item.

Because just saying: "Value is subjective" is not enough. By this logic I think SWAT 4 should still be priced $48 should be priced because it is a masterpiece, but it is priced at $9,99.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I have listened. But till now I have yet to hear any good argument. My full argument is: This is too expensive for a bare basic mount, and this will set a precedent for other mounts to also be priced expensive.

I am simply mocking the "Value is subjective", it is subjective, yes. But I am saying that there should be objectively more value in an objectively higher priced item.

Because just saying: "Value is subjective" is not enough. By this logic I think SWAT 4 should still be priced $48 should be priced because it is a masterpiece, but it is priced at $9,99.

If you listened, you still wouldn't be trying to tell people where to spend their money or not.