Regarding Firmament Titles For 5.3

[tdb]

I dislike the fact that others who didn't work as hard for title last time will now do just as little work and get the same tittle I worked my ass for.

Limited titles should be limited. Now we have 96 Saint title holders(per server), every season it will be more and more of them.

I distinctly remember the titles being originally advertised as recurring rewards, and previous winners being unable to participate so as to give others a chance and prevent botters from dominating the leaderboards forever. Though now I'm unable to find any official info on that. Maybe someone with better memory could help a bit?

[Ketu]

I distinctly remember the titles being originally advertised as recurring rewards, and previous winners being unable to participate so as to give others a chance and prevent botters from dominating the leaderboards forever. Though now I'm unable to find any official info on that. Maybe someone with better memory could help a bit?

Botters? If you refer to expert crafts, that is unable to really macro to get good results, but maaaaaybe possible to make one that makes 1 in 5 a good one. Or you meant gatherers? Not sure about others, but my bf who did mining last time was far from a botter. Which I am sure majority of people are like too.

To address previous winners part: how else do we get the achievement for part 3 then to be able to place again? I do not think I am wrong there this is their quote from today's announcement:

Achievements, on the other hand, are individual accomplishments which serve as a record of a character’s adventuring feats─such as how many times a character has placed well in the rankings. As such, it was decided that the skybuilder ranking achievements would be defined as “Phase II” and “Phase III” depending on when said achievements were earned.

This distinctively says that a character can rank more than once.

[axemtitanium]

As someone who made top 12 last ranking, I am very glad that the titles will remain the same for people who were unable to compete last time. However, as a dedicated achievement hunter, I will be competing again solely to complete the achievement, even if I am ineligible for the title because I already have it. Speaking to other achievement hunters that I know, I found that they are also committed to competing again.

This solution is nice for people who missed it before but it doesn't really address the heart of the issue, which was Yoshi-P's claim that people would "achieve top ranking once and then 'graduate' so they would not need to compete again". If you make it, achievement hunters will come. That's just a fact. If your goal is to clear these people out of the competition in order to give other people a chance, this solution does not have that outcome. It instead makes achievement hunters MORE likely to clutter up the rankings because they know it's time limited. The only real solution to the problem is to make the top 12 achievement one-and-done like Yoshida claimed the first time.

[tdb]

Botters? If you refer to expert crafts, that is unable to really macro to get good results, but maaaaaybe possible to make one that makes 1 in 5 a good one. Or you meant gatherers? Not sure about others, but my bf who did mining last time was far from a botter. Which I am sure majority of people are like too.

Someone claims to have a 90% successful macro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNZRtrc8i_Q

Also an actual bot wouldn't be limited to a fixed sequence of actions but could react to the different statuses.

To address previous winners part: how else do we get the achievement for part 3 then to be able to place again? I do not think I am wrong there this is their quote from today's announcement:

This distinctively says that a character can rank more than once.

I was talking about what they said over half a year ago, before 5.2, when the rankings were first announced. Unless I remember wrong, back then you should not have expected the title to be forever exclusive. But as I said I was unable to find hard evidence on this.

[Canadane]

Botters? If you refer to expert crafts, that is unable to really macro to get good results, but maaaaaybe possible to make one that makes 1 in 5 a good one.

No they mean actual automated play software with the logic to craft successfully.
It’s a very real concern.