$35, really SE?

[ForteNightshade]

But they are bootlickers, anyone buying this mount is.

With this price tag, I want there to be a GTA V style of customization to the mount. As it is worth almost an expansion.

Are people who dine at $200 restaurants, purchase $100 jeans or spend thousands on annual PC upgrades also "bootlickers"? All of those are luxuries in their own way. No one needs to spend $41 on a steak dinner yet they do. Why? Because they have the means and want to indulge. I'll reiterate from my earlier post, if this mount was the only Mogstation someone made all year, it comes out to the cost of two chocolate bars or a single energy drink a month. Not exactly a huge expensive.

Cost is ultimately relative. Someone making $30,000 a year will value things very different than someone earning $200,000. You certainly don't have to like the Mogstation, and can readily criticise SE. But insulting others who don't share your viewpoint is just childish.

[Alleo]

Look, these cash shop exclusive items would not exist in the first place if cash shop doesn't exist.

These are not things they made during the creation of the patch and then striping it out just to put a price tag on.

Time and time again Yoshi P has remind us the cash shop design team is separate from normal story team.

So stop saying such item was originally part of the game and they take it out just to put a price on it, it's not.

Do people that ride on economy on a flight complaint about people riding on First Class? It's the same plane come on? No , because it's an optional service. Just like anything cash shop related, it's optional. OPTIONAL!
You'd still get to the same destination. Someone with a 35 US mount is not going to ride 10x faster than someone with a e4s mount.

Yoshida also said (when they introduced the cash shop) that its only for old events and stuff like name changing and race changing. And yet here we are, with more and more exklusive stuff. Hmm might be because a company would not tell the truth about this right in our faces (as in making more money..). Of course they will say that the mount would not have existed otherwise, of course they will say that this goes purely back into FF14 and that it funds big parts of it..but lets not forget that this is corporate talk..just like EA and other companies want to convince us that certain stuff is necessary..

SE should make a huge amount of money from Fantasia, retainer service, world/name changing and the old event items (items that were once in the game and put into the cash shop afterwards because reasons..). If SE truly needs that money to give us the bascis like new servers than this game (with over 1 million active players...) is really not running that great..

I really doubt that all of those mounts, pets and clothes would not exist ingame if we had no cash shop (and honestly nobody can prove it anyways..) but of course its sounds much better to say it instead of "we just want to earn a huge ton of money".

Edit: It would also be nice to not compare these prices to F2P games..unlike SE who gets a sub these other games need that income to survive..

Cost is ultimately relative. Someone making $30,000 a year will value things very different than someone earning $200,000. You certainly don't have to like the Mogstation, and can readily criticise SE. But insulting others who don't share your viewpoint is just childish.

Value does not come from cost, it comes from what you yourself thing its worth. I could make 100.000 € each year and I would still think that this mount is not worth the price (its value too low) while somone barely getting by might truly want it and say that for the joy it brings its worth the money. (And the price tag of something does not mean that its good and worth that amount)

In the end people (like me) just really dislike the pratice to put these things behind a paywall when people already pay a monthly sub and expansion. Its even more horrible when its a mount that could have easily be an ingame rewards..its horrible that we did not truly get something for the veteran rewards and yet here are mounts that could be put there..I remember the Spriggan who they released with the eastern event..something which it would have perfectly fit..

I will not call someone a bootlicker fo spending their money (but the term whale is a known and used term in the industry), the blame is fully on SE for this..but I really hate the comments that we should just not buy it and accept it..no we can give feedback (without insults of course) and for those of us who wont buy it "content" is lost. I like to collect mounts and minions but I have given up..because without spending money I will never get a whole collection.

Maybe I would be less annoyed if we got much more content since the increase of the cash shop items (and the prices..) but instead we lost another dungeon in Shadowbringer, we lost a Palace of the death kind of content and we got two parts of two races who are limited..

[Delis]

Maybe I would be less annoyed if we got much more content since the increase of the cash shop items (and the prices..) but instead we lost another dungeon in Shadowbringer, we lost a Palace of the death kind of content and we got two parts of two races who are limited..

Not trying to defend SE but I see people do this all the time. Bring up that we lost a dungeon and deep dungeon but not mentioned things that we have gotten.

QoL changes. Updates to ARR content, like flying added, rework of quests, new gear sets added to the ARR dungeons. Changes to gathering and crafting systems, relics for crafting and gathering. New relic combat instance.(which they said you can level alt jobs in from level 71-80, so I look at it that it replaces the deep dungeon for this expansion) Ishgard restoration system, ocean fishing system. Unreal system. So it isn't like they took away that dungeon every patch and new deep dungeon and gave us nothing new in return.

As for the races. They said thast since it was the last time they planned on adding a race to the game, they wanted to give the community something they been asking for, the bunny race, and something more beastly. They didn't have the time and resources to do both so they figured one gender each. Looking back yeah they probably should have only picked one race and did both genders on it and completely scrap the other race.

[EtherRose]

Lol, the amount of salt in here over the mount. Personally i also think it's a little high but i really don't care. Why? Because i don't need it nor do i want to buy it. I feel like some people complain just to complain because they have nothing else better to do.

[Xerkrosis]

It'd be one thing if there was one in the game. Same model but different color (or another small difference). Thus people who want it can either put the work in-game they're paying monthly fee for or kinda "skip" it by buying the shop-item.

But this is neither: It's an item that skipped the game entirely and went straight to the shop exclusively for a high price. Higher than any mount before. $35 is how much addons or AA-titles cost. But this is a single item. Sure a multi-seat mount, but wether it has 4 or 10 seats doesn't matter.

It's not something entirely new. Floating carriage existed with 2.0. The chocobo existed with 2.0. The flying animation with 3.0. Ride pillion with 2.57(?). With 3 passengers 4.56.

It would be nice if SE added more options in the shop, though: Buy it for single-character or account-wide. If single-character, give the player an upgrade-option to account-wide (single+upgrade at higher price than directly account-wide), like SWTOR does.
(btw in SWTOR you could even do that all for free. All it needs is time. Buy with ingame-money, unlock with shop-coins accumulated with authenticator)

[Zukkii]

Are people who dine at $200 restaurants, purchase $100 jeans or spend thousands on annual PC upgrades also "bootlickers"?

This is a false equivalence. Dining at such restaurants has different meanings behind them, since people do it for a wholly different reason (mostly for social status). And why are you comparing buying people spending thousands on PC parts annually to a mount?
With the PC parts you get the immediate and price worthy benefits from it, I have not yet seen that this mount has anything more than what the Fat Moogle mount has (no, 2 extra seats is not enough).

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Cost is ultimately relative. Someone making $30,000 a year will value things very different than someone earning $200,000. You certainly don't have to like the Mogstation, and can readily criticise SE. But insulting others who don't share your viewpoint is just childish.

I know about how economy work, those who have a higher salary are also those who spend more, but that is not what I am arguing. What I am arguing is that having 36 dollars for a mount, that does not do anything special or give special features, is completely ridiculous. I would sound completely different if this mount had more to it be it a storyline, garage-like thing (think GTA).

You do realize that 35,99 is 4 dollars short of 39,99, the price of a new expansion pack, filled with content and story.

Or do I need to remind you how price expectations work? I would suggest looking up No Man's Sky for that, since they were an indie game with a AAA price tag.

[KageTokage]

Been seeing tons of people with the Dirndl outfit compared to the mount, but I suppose such is just the power of a massive cleavage window.

Not gonna shame people for how they choose to spend their money, but it really can't be denied that price point for a lot of the Mogstation stuff is genuinely absurd when even F2P MMOs offer paid cosmetics at lower prices regularly.

[Asteria_Solstice]

So many butthurts. Buy it or not, in the end its their own money. No one has any say in how another spend their money. Especially when they're strangers. Either u live with the fact that the mogstation will always be there or cry yourself to sleep over your pathetic effort to boycott/complained over it.

[Hazama999]

This is much too expensive for me.
I cannot personally justify the purchase of a single digital item for the amount they're asking. Were it ~15 bucks cheaper, I'd consider it, but I'll pass on it for now. Maybe wait for a sale. Idk.

Looks nice and, as someone who roleplays, I like that it's a vehicle very much grounded in XIV's world.

[Juicymama]

Are people who dine at $200 restaurants, purchase $100 jeans or spend thousands on annual PC upgrades also "bootlickers"? All of those are luxuries in their own way. No one needs to spend $41 on a steak dinner yet they do. Why? Because they have the means and want to indulge. I'll reiterate from my earlier post, if this mount was the only Mogstation someone made all year, it comes out to the cost of two chocolate bars or a single energy drink a month. Not exactly a huge expensive.

Cost is ultimately relative. Someone making $30,000 a year will value things very different than someone earning $200,000. You certainly don't have to like the Mogstation, and can readily criticise SE. But insulting others who don't share your viewpoint is just childish.

Those who complaint don't understand about luxary.

I love your explanation by the way. I work hard so I have disposable income. I've spent $50,000 playing toreba online year 3 years, and I understand to some that's alot of money, but to me it's my entertainment value.